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"content": "As you know, doctors do not just graduate with one degree. They graduate with a degree in Medicine and Surgery, a twin degree they get after six hard years on campus. You cannot just treat them like other ordinary interns that we see in the job market here. I suppose that unless something is done…"
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "There is a point of order, Hon. Wandayi. Yes, Hon. Pukose."
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, it is true that a medical officer intern has been in the university for six years, but architects have also been in the university for six years, engineers five years, and all of them graduate and become interns. Lawyers graduate and become interns, too. So, an internship is part of the training. When you graduate as a doctor and transition to an internship, you are under the supervision of a senior doctor. After one year of training, the doctor must approve that you are fit to treat another person. If I feel you are not fit to treat another person, I will make you retake the internship until I am satisfied that you can treat a person confidently and professionally without any supervision. This is part of the training. Whether you are doing a postgraduate or a Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), you remain a student. There is nothing different. It is all training. I also want to correct the Leader of the Minority Party that Parliament prosecutes its activities through committees. We have already presented the Petition to the Public Petitions Committee, but as the Departmental Committee on Health of the National Assembly and the Standing Committee on Health in the Senate, we feel we can still prosecute some of the issues that might not have been addressed. We sought permission from the Speaker to sit tomorrow, unfortunately it will be a public holiday. We have again requested the Speaker to allow us to sit on Tuesday next week."
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"content": "(Loud consultations)"
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"content": "Which other day do you want us to sit? Once you reschedule the meeting, you must inform those institutions, which should ideally take seven days per our Standing Orders. We have requested a special sitting to be held on Tuesday. This has to be between the two Houses: the National Assembly and the Senate."
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"content": "Hon. Wandayi, wind up."
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I hear the Chairman of the Committee, who is also an accomplished medical doctor. With all due respect, all that Hon. Pukose is saying is pure academics. We know for sure that even the Ksh70,000 you are offering the intern doctors is not in the CBA that was signed between the doctors and the Government in 2017. That CBA has not been waived as we speak. What is the Government doing? It should either honour it in letter and spirit or review it with the concurrence of the doctors. That is how The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Ugunja, ODM",
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"content": "labour issues are raised the world over, Hon. Speaker. Therefore, what we are being treated to here is mere academics. I do not think we will go far if we continue with this kind of spirit and thinking. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Thank you. Leader of Majority Party."
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