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"speaker_title": "Hon. Timothy Kipchumba",
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"content": "We have a challenge in this country in terms of conflict of legislations that are channelled by county assemblies and Parliament. The reason is that certain functions that are devolved are shared by the two levels of government. We must ensure, as a country, that if a function is shared between the national Government and the county governments there is uniform law that clearly states that a function is shared. That way, we will not have conflict of legislations that will bring about issues. I had a chance to work in the County Assembly of Elgeyo Marakwet. I was one of the drafters of the Elgeyo Marakwet County Assembly legislation on disaster management. As we were drafting that legislation, I realised that there was a problem. I was the legal counsel for the County Assembly of Elgeyo Marakwet at that time. I realised that the neighbouring County of Uasin Gishu had a similar legislation on disaster management. If, for example, at that time one county did not have enough facilities, the neighbouring county had to assist that county in terms of facilities. If we do not have uniform legislation, an authority that governs both the county governments and the national Government, and a council that is intergovernmental, then one county may suffer at the expense of another county. I support this legislation and pray that this authority that has been proposed will serve its intended purpose as provided for in the Constitution. I have read the functions of the Intergovernmental Council as it has been provided for in Clause 6 of the Bill. One of its functions is to advise and make recommendations to the Cabinet and the Summit. Whenever there is an emergency or a disaster, the Cabinet must be notified by this council so that county governments do not make decisions without involving the national Government. That will be a plus for me. The council shall provide policy direction and approve plans on all activities related to disaster risk management. As I said, disaster does not belong to certain counties. When disaster strikes, it affects all Kenyans. Therefore, there must be a specific policy direction that is approved by the Intergovernmental Council. The Intergovernmental Council receives, considers, and makes decisions based on the reports and recommendations of the Authority. This House has to make a policy recommendation that there must be a council that approves the recommendations of the Authority. I have read the Bill. The Intergovernmental Council must serve both levels of government and be entitled to make … The Intergovernmental Council reports to the Cabinet and the Summit on the coordination of disaster risk management among the spheres of Government. In terms of policy directives, all policies that affect Government must be approved at the Cabinet level. Therefore, the council will ensure that the policies relating to disaster management are approved by the cabinet. I commend the direction we have taken as a House that when a matter is shared between the national Government and the county governments, as a House, we must sit down and scrutinise the Fourth Schedule of the Constitution so that we do not have conflict of legislations emanating from our county assemblies. We must have a uniform set of laws that govern the 47 counties in this country to avoid conflict of legislation and representation in various cadres. I support this, Bill. At the Committee of the whole House, I will propose the necessary amendments so that we can strengthen the provisions of this proposed legislation."
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Timothy. Order, Hon. Members. Before I give the next speaker the Floor, allow me to recognise in the Speaker’s Gallery and the Public Gallery, students and teachers from Ogande Girls High School in Homa Bay Town, Homa Bay County. I have been requested by Hon. TJ Kajwang’ to welcome the students. Hon. TJ, I will give you one minute because this is in the middle of a debate."
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"speaker_name": "Ruaraka, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. TJ Kajwang’",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I thank you for asking me to welcome a huge delegation of 300 girls visiting us from Ogande Girls Secondary School. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Ruaraka, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. TJ Kajwang’",
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"content": "We have had delegations of students visiting us but we have not heard 300 students coming in one delegation. These are brilliant and bright students of History. They are in Form Four. On behalf of their Member of Parliament, Hon. George Opondo Kaluma, I want to welcome them to this House. They have an opportunity to see the Speaker himself and the House as assembled."
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"speaker_name": "Ruaraka, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. TJ Kajwang’",
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"content": "That should give them inspiration. In the coming few months, they will sit their final exams and go on to be doctors that you were talking about this morning. Very few should be lawyers and none should be a politician. Most of them should be engineers. Thank you for that opportunity."
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"content": "Thank you. Hon. Gideon Mulyungi, Member for Mwingi Central."
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"speaker_name": "Mwingi Central, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gideon Mulyungi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this very important Bill, the National Disaster Risk Management Bill. There is a problem in Kenya. Whenever we are faced with a disaster, the coordination of the response to it is disjointed. In most cases, we are reactive and not proactive. Therefore, I support that we establish the Intergovernmental Council on Risk Management and the National Disaster Risk Management Authority at both the national level of Government and the county level of government. In most cases, county governments do not know what the national Government is doing and the national Government does not know what the county governments are doing. In the past, many disasters have been witnessed in Kenya. Some of them happen and nothing is done in terms of response. For example, when we were attacked by terrorists at the West Gate Mall, the coordination was not well done and there was a lot of hue and cry. If we will have a standing Committee that is prepared to deal with disaster on a daily basis, in my view, the country will be moving in the right direction. As we gather in this House, the gate of Parliament is closed by medics because of a problem. I consider that a disaster because many Kenyans are dying in hospitals because of lack of doctors. An Authority like this one that has been proposed in the Bill prepares for such kind of cases. In fact, it will come in handy to deal with cases of disasters. What is happening in our hospitals now is a disaster. Hon. Speaker, the other day we witnessed El Niño rains all over Kenya which led to destruction of many roads. There has been no interventions in repairing them. Some of them are trunk roads while others are feeder roads. In a similar situation, when we have this kind of Authority and apex coordination committee, it will deal with disconnected roads all over the country whenever such kind of emergencies happen. We are also witnessing an increased level of road carnage. Such a situation can be addressed by such an Authority that deals with emergencies of road carnage."
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"speaker_name": "Mwingi Central, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gideon Mulyungi",
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"content": "In the past, we have also witnessed a high-cost of living and famine in the northern frontier and counties in Ukambani, where relief food is being distributed. Such an Authority will prepare itself to deal with those emergencies. Therefore, Hon. Speaker, I support this Bill on behalf of the people of Mwingi, where I come from. We should establish this Disaster Risk Management Committee and Authority to deal with disasters in Kenya."
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