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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
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"content": " Yes."
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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, the Hon. Leader of Minority Party raises a very fundamental question on how long a Bill should take between the two Houses, and especially at the Senate. Good record, as National Assembly we have been fast- tracking Senate Bills; and we have many Senate Bills in our Order Paper. However, it suffices to say here, in the 12th Parliament that the people of the Coast waited for the Crop (Amendment) Bill which we processed here with Hon. Tandaza to put cashew nuts and bixa as scheduled crops something that the Coast region had for a long time yearned for. We succeeded in this House, it was taken to the Senate, it went on until we went sine die and that has frustrated the farmers because scheduling a crop, putting it as a scheduled crop means a lot. It means budget; it means extension officers; and it means productivity. The economy at the Coast has continued to stagnate because the Senate kept the Bill. Even when we were looking for it nobody at the Senate knew where it was. Hon. Speaker, under your leadership we would like this to change so that when we finish with a Bill here in this House, we are able to take it to the Senate, we have a time frame and that it can come back whether for mediation or whatever. But Bills from National Assembly going to the Senate, staying indefinitely without them being passed is not good. It is a sad story and I hope this Bicameral Bill we passed here yesterday and which will go to the Committee of the whole House will normalise this situation so that the National Assembly does not suffer in the hands of the Senate."
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"content": "Hon. Leader of Majority Party."
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker and let me thank the Hon. Leader of the Minority Party for raising that issue. Yesterday I saw an engagement in the Senate as I was driving here in the afternoon. I was watching online, where they were complaining that we are also taking inordinately long to process their Bills but Hon. Speaker, you are aware in the House Business Committee, we purposed to consider all Bills that are coming from the Senate, and in good faith we have done that. However, they were also The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": "complaining that the House rejected two Bills, one proposed by Senator Cherargei and the other one by Senator Mungatana, which the House defeated in Second Reading. I listened to the argument that we should have allowed the Bills to progress to the Committee of the whole House before we get into mediation. I thought it is a defeatist argument because the end will be the same, ending up with mediation. If the House felt that substantively the Bill did not meet a particular threshold as was advised by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining and the other Committee that considered the other Bill by Sen. Cherargei, then we need not go to Third Reading. Hon. Speaker, you know, we, in this House, have restrained ourselves after you came here from the other House, in anyway referring to the House as a Junior House or a Lower House but I saw them unfortunately refer to this House as the Lower House and we leave it at that. I engaged with the Hon. Leader of Minority in the Senate when I saw that particular debate. I raised the particular issue of the Sugar Bill and others that have come from this House and are pending there including the Fisheries Bill, that the Ministry and the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Irrigation have been following up. He indicated that the Committee on the other side is finalising work on the Sugar Bill and by the end of next week they should be completing that Bill. I hope that they will keep their word on that, together with processing of the Fisheries Management Bill that I mentioned to him. Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I, therefore, beg that we give them until the end of next week and see if they will complete it as they promised."
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"content": "Thank you Hon. Wandayi, for raising the issue and the Hon. Leader of Majority Party and your Deputy. What I would like the Hon. Leader of Majority Party and your team to do… I am told the Sugar Bill is on the Floor of the Senate this week or next week. One of the impediments in fast-tracking Bills as you know under the Constitution, every Bill from the Senate must come to this House and not all Bills from this House go to the Senate. You have the Chepkonga Bill on bicameral relations and there is another Bill that has been brought by you. You must address the issue of public participation. If a Bill originates from this House and has gone through extensive public participation, is it necessary for it to go through the same mill when it gets to the Senate and vice versa? Public participation is public participation and it is the same public and the same House. When you pass a Bill, it becomes an Act of Parliament. It is not an Act of the Senate. It is not an Act of the National Assembly. You need to address the issues of public participation so that we do not have duplex processes on the same process of legislation. That will expedite the process of Bills. As I have told you, there are those Bills around Articles 109 and 110 of the Constitution that can deal with that issue. The Committee that is dealing with that matter can address those issues to help the processing of Bills in a very special way. I have discussed the same with Hon. Murugara. He looks tired. He is yawning. Is that Hon. Farah? Is it on the same issue?"
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"speaker_name": "Dadaab, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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"content": " Yes. That is something very exquisite and we are happy. But Hon. Speaker, we do not have a public participation Act in this country. We do not have a law."
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"content": "There was a proposed law that was brought for enactment in the last Parliament but was rejected by the House."
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"speaker_name": "Dadaab, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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"content": " Yes. Hon. Speaker, is it not time you directed that we should have a law that defines what public participation is so that we all know?"
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