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"content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Bill on allocation of monies to counties. As I support this Bill, we urge our counties, that the Senate having worked very hard to increase the allocation from the proposed Kshs391 to Kshs400 billion mark, expect our counties to be diligent in the utilisation of these resources. My own county of Uasin Gishu will have additional funds of over Kshs300 million. I expect that the County Government of Uasin Gishu will ensure that the VTCs that are on the verge of being closed, with only one out of 13 being functional will be restored and our young people will be able to get skills to work. As I also rise to support this Bill, as the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Health, I urge our county governments to invest resources in health because this builds the foundation of every county. It would be sad to see a county like Isiolo continue without a morgue or working ambulances. It will be a disaster to see the city funeral home operating without a generator after all this allocation. I hope that Sen. Sifuna is listening. He should make sure that he tells his governor to expend these resources by getting a generator for the Nairobi Funeral Home, which he has not procured for the past two financial years. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is incumbent upon this House to make sure that our counties utilise resources well and also take action on governors who, after allocating all these resources, dare not appear before Senate Standing Committees whenever they are required or requested to do so. Anybody who has agreed to receive public resources must be ready to accept to account for those resources on an equal measure as required by the law. As the Senate, we must also check on utilisation of the money. I urge that as we start the next session of the House, committees of this Senate should focus on visiting counties to see the reality. Reports can be good on paper. However, on arrival, you will find a slaughterhouse in the name of a dispensary. It is only when we visit the counties that we will see the reality of what our people are going through and utilisation of the---"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": " Next is Sen. Mwaruma."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa fursa hii ambayo umenipa kuchangia Mswada wa The County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bills No.25 of 2024). Kaunti zetu zitapata takriban Shilingi bilioni 401. Hata hivyo, haikuwa rahisi bila kupigana kwa sababu Bunge la Taifa lilitaka kaunti zipate Shilingi bilioni 391. Ilibidi tuwe na Kamati ya Maridhiano. Kuna sababu kadhaa ambazo Wabunge hao walitoa kwa kukataa kupitisha Shilingi bilioni 415 ambazo zilipendekezwa na Seneti. Ya kwanza ni kwa sababu ya ufisadi katika magatuzi. Ufisadi pia uko katika Serikali ya Kitaifa jinsi ulivyo katika serikali za magatuzi. Ni muhimu taasisi husika zipigane na ufisadi katika Serikali ya Kitaifa na zile za magatuzi. Sababu ya pili waliyotoa ni kwamba hawaelewi majukumu ya magatuzi na ndio maana walikataa kupitisha Shilingi bilioni 415. Hilo ni jambo la kushangaza sana kwamba Wabunge wanaopewa kazi ama jukumu la kupeana pesa hawaelewi majukumu ya magatuzi. Labda Wabunge wetu wanahitaji kosi za kuelewa magatuzi yanafanya kazi gani. Nashukuru sana Maseneta kwa kukubali kwamba kazi yetu ni kuhakikisha kuwa pesa zaidi zinaenda katika magatuzi yetu. Wakati magatuzi yanapopata pesa, ni vyema sisi kama Seneti tufuatilie na kuhakikisha kuwa majukumu yaliyogatuliwa yanafanywa jinsi inavyotakikana. Mimi ni Mwanakamati wa Kamati ya Elimu inayoongozwa na Sen. Joe Nyutu. Tunapozuru kaunti mbalimbali, wakati mwingine tunapata kwamba zimewacha jukumu yaliyogatuliwa na kuingilia majukumu ambayo hayajagatuliwa. Ukiangalia bajeti za idara za elimu, utapata kuwa magavana wengi wanatenga pesa za bursaries kwa wanafunzi wa shule za sekondari, vyuo vikuu na Technical, Industrial, Vocational, and Entrepreneurship Training (TIVET). Simaanishi kuwa ni vibaya lakini pia tusisahau majukumu yaliyogatuliwa. Haya ni pamoja na shule za chekechea na vyuo anuwai---"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Chute."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I take this opportunity to thank Members, including myself, who went for the mediation. We managed to get an allocation of Kshs401 billion. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "The problem that counties are facing is mainly the issue of release of funds for county functions. Agriculture, health, Early Childhood Education Centres (ECDEs), TIVET, water, among others, are devolved functions. Let me tell you about roads. The Governor of Kiambu appeared before the Senate sometime back and complained about thousands of kilometres under county governments, but no funds are allocated. Marsabit is one of the second-largest counties in this Republic. Moving from Ileret to Marsabit can take three days because there are no roads. How do you expect the county government to manage those roads without funds? That is the first problem. Secondly is the issue of water and Marsabit County is an example. People are suffering because the Government sends money to regional authorities instead of counties. Why are we releasing functions without funds? This is a criminal offence. Just like one Senator said, this is theft which starts from the top going down to the counties. I believe that funds must follow functions. Regional authorities should be completely disbanded. We do not need them because we have counties. Thirdly is the issue of funds for ECDEs. In Marsabit, we do not have ECDEs because children learn under trees. The reason is because funds are being consumed at the Ministry of Education. Why is the money kept and used by the national Government while ECDEs are suffering? Health is a devolved function. The introduction of the Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF) will help counties manage their hospitals---"
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"content": "Hon. Kingi): Proceed, Sen. Omtatah."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Okiya Omtatah",
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Bill. However, I am also not happy about the amount of money that counties will get. When you look at the allocations that will go to the counties, this is not the kind of money that counties need to execute their functions. Little as it is, the money should be released on time by the National Treasury. One of the major problems faced by counties is late release of funds. The National Treasury should realise that it serves 48 governments and there is no provision that it has to satisfy the national Government first then county governments. We should have money on the ground on time, so that the budgets can work. I have also looked at the laxity with which the National Assembly approves audited accounts of the Auditor-General. However, when it comes to the National Government-Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF), they do not peg it on audited accounts, but on raw data. If at all we are going to entrench the NG-CDF in the Constitution, as they are trying to do, it must be pegged on audited accounts. That way, the National Assembly will be up to task to give us timely audited accounts on budgets of the national Government. Further to that, as a House, we need to look at the definition of “revenue” according to Section 2 of the Commission on Revenue Allocation Act. That definition of revenue robs counties of money that they are entitled to. They exclude a lot of money that the national Government generates, yet the Constitution is clear that 15 per cent is on revenue raised nationally. At the end of the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "day, you will find that they take away so much money that what remains to be shared among counties is small and cannot satisfy the demands of devolution. That as it may---"
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