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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Bill. We have a problem with the release of funds to the counties. Every father like you and I know that the day your son or daughter goes out of your house and they are able to stand on their feet, earn their money and determine their own budget, that is the day we can say that the girl or the boy has become independent. We have a National Treasury in Kenya that only serves the purpose of the national Government and nothing else. They do not listen. When we make necessary noise for counties to receive their monies on time and when we pass schedules, they do no listen or do what we want. When we say that money should follow the function, they do not do that. I pray that this Senate will fight for the true independence of counties by fighting for a separate Treasury that will ensure that when money is collected from the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA), following the formula that is agreed, there is an automatic The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "separation in terms of deposits. This is so that we create two separate consolidated funds. One going to the national Government and the other one for the counties, so that we never have delays. This is going to be a legacy for this House. If we can fight for financial independence of counties by having, even in the interim, a sub-registry or a sub- treasury that deals specifically with counties, then we will be able to ensure proper and smooth flow of funds to the counties. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": "It is okay, Senator. You have nothing to add to this because this is CARA?"
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"content": "I have more on additional allocation, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Okay. Then I will call the Mover to reply. Proceed, Senator."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I thank all the Members who have contributed to this Bill. The issues they have raised are important. For instance, the timely release of the equitable share by the Exchequer cuts across all the counties. My county, Mombasa, has not received any funds since March this year. I agree with the proposal by Sen. Osotsi that whenever there is a delay, the Cabinet Secretary should be summoned before this House to explain why there is delay. Some of the counties are dependent on the equitable share because their own-source revenues have not developed to become self-sufficient. Secondly, on the issue of prudent use of resources, there has been debate in the last few months on exorbitant legal fees facing our counties. Most of the monies meant for development are channeled to pay legal fees, especially the external advocates who get hired by counties. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the absorption of budget is a critical problem. In the last report by the CoB, we saw several counties, including Mombasa, which have failed to absorb their funds in accordance with their procurement plans. There has been over-emphasis on the issuance of bursaries at the expense of the ECDEs and village polytechnics. Some counties do not have even a single village polytechnic. Yet they spend millions on bursaries that are already catered for by the NG-CDF. Pending bills have also not been paid. There was a report by the Committee on Finance and Budget on this subject. Pursuant to Standing Order No.66(3), I request that the putting of the question of this Bill be deferred to allow debate on Order No. 10 in the Order Paper for this afternoon."
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"content": " The putting of the question is deferred."
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