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"content": "County on pending bills. The reason I did that with a lot of hesitation is because the Senate had passed a Motion on how to handle pending bills. As the Senate Majority Leader, what will be the best way forward? I remember that in the Motion, all the 47 countries were supposed to file a payment plan with the Controller of Budget (CoB). Has that been done? If it has not, what is the next course of action for the Senate?"
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would suggest that the Senate, at a sitting of the Committee of the Whole, invites the CoB and the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury. Those are the only two offices who can help us to review this matter objectively. As a matter of fact, there is a pending bills committee that was gazetted about two months ago. However, they have taken inordinately long to review the pending bills both at county and national level. I agree with the findings of the Senate, that the matter of pending bills is perhaps greater than all these other crises that we are handling presently. Therefore, I propose that your good office facilitates the CoB and the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury when we resume, so that we can amicably conclude on this matter in a very simple way. Regulation 18 of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act permits that the CoB enforces the implementation of budgets that have previously been passed. Therefore, they are duty-bound to commit before the House. Before any county government makes a requisition and is allowed to draw, they should show their commitment in compliance with the resolution of the Senate by sorting out the pending bills at their county. That way, we will be able to sort this. I thank you."
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"content": " Is it your request, Senate Majority Leader, that the CoB is summoned to appear before the Committee of the Whole to inform the House how far her office has gone in implementing the Motion as adopted by the Senate?"
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, that is the request, given that on the same day, the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury, Hon. John Mbadi, will be appearing before us to respond to the Questions I have listed here. Since they will jointly be here, we can transact that business before he leaves the plenary."
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"content": " Before, I give directions, let me allow Sen. Olekina to make his intervention."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It now behooves us, as a House, to find a solution to the issue of the Integrated Financial Management Information System (IFMIS). The County Treasury changes the payments at the last minute when they receive money from the CoB. Instead of just leaving this to the CoB, it is about time that we amend the PFM Act expeditiously. The Senate Majority Leader knows that whenever an Act of Parliament is required to be amended, it can take place within two weeks. We should amend the PFM Act to ensure that the IFMIS system is an end-to-end system; such that once an expense has been entered, it comes out at the end of the IFMIS system. Mr. Speaker, Sir, number two, this House is now being invited again to consider amending the Schedule of the County Allocation of Revenue Act (CARA) that has not been signed yet. I request that we also decide not to send any money to counties. Whatever we will amend, we should look through Regulation 109 of the PFM Act to ensure that the schedule that we send to the CoB for releasing funds to counties"
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"content": "includes pending bills. We ring-fence it such that pending bills become the first charge of the account. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I welcome the request by the Senate Majority Leader to call the CoB and the Cabinet Secretary here. However, we know that those two State officers are limited by law; it is us who can actually bring in solutions. I beseech the Senate Majority Leader, together with the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget to bring amendments to the PFM Act, to specifically deal with the issue of the IFMIS. Thank you."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, the reason I pose this question to the Senate Majority Leader is because there must be meaning to whatever resolutions the Senate makes. Otherwise, then you will be making resolutions that will never give you the results that you intended when you were making them. I suggest that the Committee on Finance and Budget do call the CoB and the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury and Economic Planning to appear before that Committee. In that meeting, the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget should invite all Senators, so that you have an opportunity to engage both the CoB and the Cabinet Secretary on the resolutions that you made on this particular matter. It is so guided. Sen. Eddy Oketch, the Floor is open to comment on the statements that have been requested. Before I open the Floor, I have three or so statements that are not contained in the Order Paper today. However, being the last day, I will allow. There is one by Sen. Samson Cherarkey, proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I needed your guidance because the Deputy Speaker had also requested that---"
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"content": " Okay, proceed to hold his brief and then you read yours."
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