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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Seki",
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                "legal_name": "Samuel Seki Kanar",
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also add my voice to the statements from Sen. Beth Syengo and Sen. Wakoli on the issue of pending bills and capitation of Technical Training Institutions (TTIs). We know very well that TTIs and Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVETs) are integral and important institutions that offer skilled labour to our young men and women within the counties. Therefore, we need to focus on them. The capitation from the national Government through the Ministry of Education is a very important programme that needs to be observed. The national Government need to look into it and ensure that students in these institutions are paid that money, so that we do not have problems of skill. We are all aware that students admitted to these institutions have low grades. Therefore, we are expected to have skilled labourers in our factories in the counties. The issue of pending bills is a big problem in our counties. However, we do not have a focused and programmed way to handle pending bills in our counties. It is upon this House to come up with a procedure on how to handle these problems, once and for all. I appreciate that hon. Sen. Olekina has come up with a Bill that will assist us to fast-track settling of pending bills, which have caused a lot of problems and harm to our people in the country. Our business people and contractors are owed a lot of money by both the county government and national Government. They have continued to suffer losses. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support these two Statements. I thank you for the time that you have given me."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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            "content": " Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, proceed."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Tabitha Mutinda",
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. First, I want to support Sen. Beth Syengo’s statement in regards to the issue of the TVETs. I also support my colleagues on emphasizing the importance of the skills and knowledge normally acquired by young people. I also note that TVETs are much more affordable in this country. Without this capitation, it brings challenges. We have seen young people up and down in the streets. Ensuring that these institutions are well financed gives them the opportunity that they deserve. Secondly, is on the Statement regarding the pending bills. This is an issue that the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget has really tried to look into. During the last Division of Revenue Act (DORA) on the approval for the Kshs400 billion, we had the delegation of the Governors led by the Chair of the Council of Governors (CoGs), Madam The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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            "content": "Ann Waiguru. I personally emphasized on the thorn and animal called the pending bills, which has affected contractors highly in our counties. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is time, as a Committee, to rethink the amendments in the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act. Before any new contracts are awarded to any new suppliers and contractors, the pending bills must be cleared. Payments must be made even before the new contracts are awarded. An amendment on the procurement laws should be the way to go. The animal has been there because when the new governors come in with their new people, the old ones remain in the same system without being paid. Lastly, I would like to comment on the issue of the Toi Market. Markets in Nairobi City County have really been affected by fire. This is something that we have also communicated as people of the county. The Governor should take different strategic measures. For example, he should ensure that each and every market has set aside a fully equipped lorry to take care of the fire tragedies that we have seen. My condolences go to the families that have lost their loved ones. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as far as the issue of the National Treasury is concerned, I heard the Senator for Nairobi City County, Sen. Sifuna, talk about liaising closely with the nominee who will be appointed to the National Treasury. It is an indication that the Secretary General (SG) of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) is embracing broad- based government. He supports his brother as he settles in the Ministry of National Treasury. It is positive because with those efforts, then we will ensure that issues of capitation, pending bills or any other that arise will be taken care of. We look forward as the Committee on Finance and Budget to get full support from the Ministry of National Treasury through the current nominee as he settles in."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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            "content": " Senate Majority Leader, proceed."
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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                "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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            "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have two quick issues. I say this quickly after the Vice-Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget. As a House, we must also become a bit more serious in how we undertake our duty because of the people of this Republic who voted us to this House to legislate, represent, oversight and ensure that we propagate solutions that make their lives better. Even as issues are brought to fore every afternoon via statements by our colleagues, we must then ask ourselves how we can quickly resolve many of the issues that come before us either at committee or plenary level of the entire House. This issue of pending bills in our county governments has been with us for about six years now. Is it not about time that our Standing Committee on Finance and Budget sets the bar a bit higher, so that the contracting agent - that is the county governments - can be more fiscally responsible? Apart from the many nice things that we say this afternoon to appear to be concerned for the people of this Republic, I would expect either Sen. Ali Roba or Sen. Tabitha Mutinda begin to move us towards an amendment to the PFM Act that sets pending bills as a first charge to the consolidated fund of our county governments. This will ensure that governors do not end up contracting new services before, first of all, paying for that which they consumed the previous financial year. Otherwise, year after year, we shall continue dealing with this problem the same way we have dealt with it the last six years. Occasionally, such a matter appears before the Senate, we speak on behalf of the people we represent and say how we are concerned and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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                "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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            "content": "dismayed at the behaviour of governors. However, we are the only ones who have the powers to resolve this issue. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I expect that when we resume from recess, the Committee on Finance and Budget will be ready with an amendment towards the fulfilment of the desire and benefit of many citizens who work and contract services for and on behalf of our county governments. Mr. Speaker, Sir, lastly---"
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            "speaker": null,
            "content": "(An hon. Senator spoke off record)"
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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            "content": " Sen. Kavindu Muthama."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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            "content": " No, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I was interrupted and that is why I kept quiet for about a minute."
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