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"content": "Bw. Spika, ningependa kuchukua fursa hii kuchangia mjadala huu unaohusu watu wa Meru. Napinga Hoja hii kwa sababu si vizuri kuwachia Maseneta 11 kuamua hatima ya watu wa Meru ikizingatiwa kuwa hii ni mara ya tatu kwa Gavana huyo kuletwa katika Seneti. Jambo hili linafaa kuangaziwa na Seneti nzima ili kutoa uamuzi. Maseneta 67 wataangazia jambo hili kwa kina na kwa njia itakayosaidia wakaazi wa Kaunti ya Meru. Kuna mambo ambayo Gavana wa Meru ameshtumiwa kufanya. Tukiwa na vikao hapa, mambo hayo yatakuwa yanaangaziwa si na Kenya pekee bali ulimwengu mzima. Watu watakuwa wakifuatilia ili kuona uamuzi wa Seneti. Bw. Spika, napendekeza kuwa jambo hili liangaziwe na Seneti nzima ili kila mtu ajue hatima ya Gavana wa Meru, Mhe. Kawira Mwangaza, na watu wa Meru wapate haki."
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"content": "On a point of clarification, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Sen. Boni, what clarification do you want to seek?"
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is on record that four out of 11 Senators of the proposed committee have opposed and, therefore, technically withdrawn. It will be useful for you to make a ruling on whether in this kind of Motion, if this eventuality is reached, does it mean the Motion has been lost or do we still vote on it? Assuming that The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "the Motion sails through and four Senators have already technically withdrawn, what are we voting for? Mr. Speaker, Sir, please, guide us. By default, it means the Motion has collapsed."
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"content": " Sen. Boni, I have listened carefully to each one of you who have stood to contribute to this Motion, but I have not heard any of the Senators who have spoken saying that they have withdrawn. You can give your opinion. Once the House passes the Motion, at that particular time, you may withdraw. Let us listen to the Senator for Nandi."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. As the champion of plenary proceedings under the Third Schedule of the Standing Orders, I am one of the happiest men. Finally, I have been vindicated on many fronts, even including broad-based issues. I agree and if you look at that Schedule, Page 216 of the Standing Orders, the formation of plenary or committee of impeachment of a Governor is almost the same. In fact, if you look at it word by word, but we are now subsuming ourselves into a quasi-judicial mechanism. Therefore, all of us will assume the role of being a Judge. It is important so that all of us can learn. Under Article 118 of the Constitution, there is public participation of parliamentary proceedings. When we go for Plenary, the people of Meru County, the Governor, Members of County Assembly (MCAs) and Kenyans at large, will watch the proceedings in an open and transparent manner. I am not casting aspersions on the proceedings of the committees. It is supposed to be open and it is open as per Article 118 of the Constitution 2010. However, to avoid being ‘greeted’ by the Gen-Z, it is better nowadays to put things in the open, because sometimes the nature of committees can escape the attention of the public. I agree that the issues of Meru County are very unique, complex and diverse. We cannot kneel over under Article 192 on suspension of the county. Meru is working, but some parts of the county are not working. I remind the Deputy Party Leader of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), together with the Secretary General (SG), to organize an induction course at the Kenya School of Government (KSG), so that he understands that we do not have a functional Independent Electoral Boundaries Commission (IEBC) at the moment. We are still considering the amendments of the National Dialogue Committee (NADCO) Report. We should not envisage the suspension under Article 192 because we have the opportunity to listen, to ventilate through and give a chance. I want to tell the committee members who were proposed that we love you, but plenary loved us most. We wish you well and we will appoint you. I thank you. I oppose the Motion."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Simply saying, I support the plenary. Much has been said and I would like to request that you recommend that the report be captured later by relevant committees. I thank you."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to oppose the Motion. It would be fair for the people of Meru County to at least hear the opinion of each and everyone in this House. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "According to Article 96(1), the Senate is obligated to protect the interests of everybody in Kenya. If you have all the Senators in this House interrogate and to ask questions, more opinions will be reached and there will be fair hearing for everybody on both sides of the divide; the Governor in question, the MCAs and the public at large. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a very unfortunate situation. As the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Devolution and Inter-Governmental relations, we have tried our best to intervene in this matter. When Members visited there, we created dialogue and we were promised that it would be the end of that matter. However, it still continues and the people of Meru County are not enjoying their rights and development. I wish to oppose the Motion and propose that we go the plenary way. I thank you."
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