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"content": " I want to amplify something. I plead with the patron of the Pastoralist Parliamentary Group (PPG). The era of lamentation is gone. Let us forget about that. The framers of the current Constitution gave us an opportunity to catch up with other Kenyans by providing the Equalisation Fund. It has not been implemented and yet, we are over 105 Members of Parliament in this august House. We need to go back to the drawing board. Let me finish this. We need to go back to the drawing board and deal with it decisively, legally and constitutionally, and with those who want to further marginalise us. You know them. They are in office. Those are the technocrats. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Under the leadership of the PPG, this is a very important issue. We will not allow us to go to the next decade under this marginalisation. I am in receipt of a document. It is not only the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock Development. In fact, irrigation and livestock are not defined. If you go to the Bretton Woods institutions, you will realise that all the funds that are meant - and I want Hon. Adow to hear this - for the disadvantaged regions are diverted by the technocrats. It is not the mistake of the Members of Parliament, but of the technocrats in the ministries. Hon. Adow should bring a Motion so that we can censure the person who is in charge of this particular phenomenon. Bring a Motion or a question, so that the Cabinet Secretary can be taken to task. We also need to amplify our role. I feel so sad today. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are around today. Let me repeat this, and it will be my final comment. Under the current constitutional infrastructure, there were four contending groups. You fit in one of them. One group wanted a pure parliamentary system, and you know the component. Another group wanted a pure presidential system. Another group wanted devolution. Finally, those who are disadvantaged said they wanted equalisation and devolution. Those two are not working today. We need to go back to the drawing board and address our challenges within the Constitution so that we shall never be at the mercy of a particular individual again. We will not claim to be marginalised again and cry for the mercy of individuals who are not better than us. I resist. That is not the approach. Let us deal with the technocrats who want to use cocoon approaches to further marginalise us. They should remember that in this modern-day Kenya, my rights will not be at the mercy of any individual. The rights of my constituents should not be at the whims of any individual. It should be a God- given right. It should be constitutionally placed, driven and centered right. That is why the framers of the Constitution were very generous. I plead with you, my patron here and other colleagues that we can have a crisis meeting to address this issue and dissect the budget? The budget phenomenon is being used to further marginalise regions. Every Kenyan has the right to get a portion of the national cake. It is not a favour or privilege. It is not something that we should go to offices to demand for it. Bring that report or question to the Floor of the House and, certainly, we will take those individuals to task. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "Hon. Peter Kaluma): Hon. Beatrice Elachi."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate that each region must find itself on the table to ensure that equitable distribution of resources is done. However, honestly, it is the leaders who have let down our people. Since we started devolution, a lot of money has been taken to counties. As a country, we agreed that devolution money in Arid and Semi-Arid Lands (ASALs) will be more than any other region, so that our brothers and sisters from there can also grow based on that and also the Equalisation Fund. Today, we are here on the same issue. We have the same amount of money in the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF). If you talk about poverty, people sleep hungry in Nairobi City County. If you walk into houses in Nairobi, you will find that. We should not close our eyes and assume that it will always be business as usual. Very soon, we shall say that every constituency should have a share from the division of revenue, so that we can see the development that we always talk about. I tell my brothers that their governors have also failed them. They need to have developed those areas for the last 14 years. I do not support this request for a statement."
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"content": "Hon. Peter Kaluma): This was a request for a statement. We neither require support nor opposition to it. We have done enough with it. Hon. Sarah Korere, what is burning so much? I have only allowed this debate because the matter is important. However, I want to give directions on it. I have also allowed it only The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "because the Cabinet Secretary is not coming and we have an extended sitting. Members, agree that we are beyond our deliberation on statements for the time. Therefore, proceed Hon. Korere."
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"content": " Shukrani, Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Nakubaliana na ndugu yangu, Mohammed Adow. Pia, namsikitikia sana mwenzetu aliyejaribu kujibu hilo swali kwa niaba ya idara husika. Nimesikiliza majibu yake na ni ya kukasirisha kidogo. Ukweli ni kwamba kuna fedha taslimu ambazo zimeachwa katika idara hii ili kushughulikia maneno ya sehemu kame katika kukuza chakula ili tusiwe watu wa kuombaomba. Saa zingine, watu wetu wanawekwa kwa aibu. Kila siku wanasimama na gunia kungoja kupewa kilo moja au mbili za mahindi. Majibu waliyopeana yanakera sana na haina msingi yeyote. Saa zingine pia, wenyeviti wa kamati wawe waangalifu wasije wakadhalilishwa na hawa mawaziri kwa kupeana majibu kiholelaholela ambayo hayajibu chochote ambacho kimeulizwa. Ahsante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda."
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"content": "Hon. Peter Kaluma): Hon. (Dr) Jackson Kosgei"
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The issue of ASALs and marginalisation has been a theme since Independence. It is about time we revisit the definition of the terms we have used over time. After 60 years of Independence in this country, and even through our constitutional guidance as established by Article 204 of our Constitution where the Equalisation Fund is domiciled, it is about time we think ASALs could be richer than all the other parts of the country. They have 88 per cent of the land mass. We have natural resources which need to be exploited for the interest of our people. In fact, we have minerals. We need to improve from 0.5 per cent for sinking boreholes and doing those mitigating projects into real survey of our natural resources that are lying underneath. In fact, marginalised areas and ASALs have wealth which can run the economy of this country for more than 100 years to come. We have oil and minerals. Some people have gone into those areas for speculation, and bought land and privatised it. That is because they know that it is quite rich. We would like to redirect those resources of 0.5 per cent and enhance and use them in discovering how to help our people in the ASAL areas. Let us advance this argument better and make it useful for our people. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Hon. Members, we have other statements to deal with. This was not a call for debate. I want to give directions which will enable us to participate better and come up with a more workable solution. I know Hon. Oluoch wants to speak about Mathare North as an ASAL. Hon. Ruweida Obo also wants to speak about Lamu East as an ASAL. There is a part in my constituency which does not receive enough rain but it is not ASAL. I direct as follows: We have other business to transact and reports to receive. The manner in which this matter was approached is a bit restrictive because it was brought by way of a request for a statement. It is raising fundamental policy questions around agriculture in ASAL areas which is a vast part of our country. It covers over 80 per cent. I want to direct that with the interest shown and the potential in those regions if they were to be harnessed in terms of agricultural production, Hon. Brighton should go back to his Committee and sit with the Chairperson. Then, they can invite all the interested Members. Give them due notice, call the Cabinet Secretary involved and undertake an enquiry. So, that you look at how the policy, if existent, is working and, if not, how to make one that will ensure this country is food sufficient. Hon. Members, we leave it at that. Do you have the report in respect of the statement by Hon. Robert Gichimu ready?"
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