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"speaker_name": "Kiminini, DAP-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Bisau Kakai",
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"content": " Thank you for remembering that I had my six minutes. From the onset, I support what has been tabled. However, what has been a disappointment is the little interest in this issue. It would be good to start cohesion with the Parliamentary Service Commission. As they always say, charity begins at home. We need to see the distribution of numbers within the Parliamentary Service Commission. I would also like to highlight that the problem begins from here, as well as the Executive. It even starts from our own NG-CDF offices. How do we do geographical distribution of community origins? Additionally, I sit in the Public Investments Committee on Education and Governance. You will find that certain provinces pick vice-chancellors from that area. In the process, there is tribalism and lack of cohesion. Regional balancing is not considered. I gave an example of my previous work in the United Nations (UN), where we had what we called a quota system. In the system, they distribute jobs by looking at a country's population and then lock out the percentage there. An example is the Kenyan situation. We can say that the Agikuyu community has the highest population, corresponding to 17 per cent. When jobs are being distributed in the civil service, for example, you freeze employment once you reach that 17 per cent so that you also allow in other communities. That is the only way to try to balance it out. Another example from educational institutions is that job advertisements propel a lack of cohesion such that they do not attract people from outside certain regions. We would like to have a situation where we head-hunt whoever is appointed to positions like vice-chancellors or the Public Service Commission. After freezing a covered community, you have to work out and even target people like the 43rd community of this Republic and persons with disabilities. I expected that to come out very strongly in the Report. Additionally, the Report has just given recommendations. We even want to have some punitive measures. For example, if you are working in an area where you have the responsibility to ensure equal opportunities but fail to meet that threshold, some punitive measures can be taken. In a nutshell, the problem begins here. We have even seen situations where Members of this House and other elected leaders literally physically eject people who are picked from their backyards into institutions. We need to walk the talk. We should not preach water and take wine. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Kiminini, DAP-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Bisau Kakai",
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"content": "By and large, it is a very good submission by Hon. Abdi. I support it. However, we need punitive measures to ensure that whoever is given an opportunity walks the talk. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Hon. Liza Chelule."
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"speaker_name": "Nakuru County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Liza Chelule",
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"content": " Ahsante sana, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi hii nichangie mambo yanayohusu nafasi za kazi katika nchi yetu ya Kenya. Kwanza, ningependa kumshukuru Chairman wangu aliyeleta mjadala huu katika Bunge jana. Ripoti hii ilisikilizwa sana na Wajumbe waliokuwa ndani ya Bunge wakati huo. Ningependa pia kuipongeza Kamati yangu ya National Cohesion and Equal Opportunity kwa kufanya kazi kubwa ya kutengeneza Ripoti hii iliyoletwa Bungeni jana. Kamati iliamua kuchunguza kinachoendelea katika Wizara mbalimbali kuhusiana na mambo ya nafasi za kazi. Tulipoanza uchunguzi, tulikutana na Wizara 18. Baada ya kufanya mikutano nao na kuuliza sababu ambazo zimepelekea kabila zingine kukosa kazi, walitaja mambo mengi sana. Mengine yalihusiana na namna taarifa hufikia wananchi mashinani. Kuna watu wanaokaa sehemu fulani, na inakuwa vigumu kwao kujua kinachoendelea nchini Kenya, hususan mambo ya nafasi za kazi. Watu wengi hawapati habari kwenye magazeti kuhusu kazi ambazo zimetangazwa, au kazi zinazohitaji watu fulani. Watu tunaowatetea ni akina mama, wale wanaoishi na ulemavu na vijana. Wengi walilalamika sana na kusema ya kwamba hawapati taarifa ya kutosha. Tuliafikiana ya kwamba ni lazima tupitishe Ripoti hii. Kama Wabunge, ni muhimu tujielimishe kuhusu mambo kama haya yanayoendelea nchini Kenya, na ni lazima tutafute suluhisho. Namuunga mkono Mheshimiwa kutoka eneo Bunge la Kiminini. Amesema ya kwamba tuanze na sisi wenyewe kama Wabunge na sehemu zetu. Katika ofisi zetu, tumeandika watu kwa njia gani? Je, tumefuata sheria ambayo imewekwa katika Katiba yetu? Tuna Katiba na sheria kuhusu mambo ya ugavi wa nafasi za kazi nchini Kenya. Kwa hivyo, tumeileta Ripoti hii ili tujielimishe na tuanze na ofisi zetu. Kuna muda tuliuliza Wizara mbalimbali maswali mengi, na wakasema ya kwamba hakuna structure ya kutosha kuhakikisha taarifa zinafika mashinani zaidi ya kutumia magazeti. Tunajua bayana kwamba kuna watu ambao hawawezi hata kununua magazeti, na wengine wao hawana redio au namna yeyote ya kupata taarifa hizi. Hata ofisi ya Mbunge kule mashinani inaweza kupitisha habari hizi. Ningependa kuwaeleza Wabunge wanaonisikia kwa sasa ya kwamba ofisi zao zinaweza pia kuwa structure ya kutuma taarifa hizi. Kama viongozi, ni lazima tuonyeshe ya kwamba tunajali na tungependa watu mashinani wapate taarifa za nafasi za kazi katika wizara mbalimbali. Tunahitajika kuwa tayari kusikiliza kinachoendelea. Kama wawakilishi wa wananchi, ni lazima tuangalie na tuwawakilishe ili wapate taarifa. Kuna ofisi mbalimbali, na sio ya Wabunge tu peke yao. Kuna pia ofisi za County"
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"content": "Women Representatives, Governors and Members of County Assemblies (MCAs)."
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"speaker_name": "Nakuru County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Liza Chelule",
"speaker": null,
"content": "Ofisi ya"
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"speaker_name": "Nakuru County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Liza Chelule",
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"content": "ndio ya mwisho katika utaratibu wa uongozi nchini Kenya. Ripoti tuliyoileta hapa ni ya kueleza kila mmoja ya kwamba kuna shida, na kama viongozi, tunafaa kuirekebisha. Kwa niaba ya watu wa Nakuru na wananchi wote wa Kenya, ningependa kuomba Wabunge wenzangu tusaidiane na tuhakikishe ya kwamba taarifa imefika mashinani, na tutekeleze Kipengele cha 232 cha Katiba yetu. Kwa hayo machache, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ahsante sana kwa fursa hii kuchangia Ripoti hii kuhusu ugavi wa kazi nchini Kenya. Ahsante."
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"content": " Given that there is no more interest in this particular Motion, I call upon the Mover… Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi, do you want to speak to this? Proceed. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Buuri, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is a critical topic for discussion in this country. As it is right now, the situation may look like a few are getting while others are not. But, we must not lose sight of some historical factors that have led to where we are and how we have created a bit of disparities. The Constitution has brought a bit of checks and balances on how we have been employing people in this country. We should also not lose sight that this Report is biased in the sense that they have only brought in the public sector. They have not addressed the private sector. I do not know what they will do or why they avoided consulting the private sector. I know some of the private sector and NGOs will practise what our Constitution dictates. From that perspective, when we are talking about cohesiveness in terms of employment, it needs to be very broad. Even if it means finding a way of addressing the same matter with the private sector, so be it. We should look at why people are employed in a particular place. Specialised institutions, whether private or public, look at qualifications and not where a person comes from. If you go to Nairobi Hospital, you will meet many professors and doctors from Nyanza. That is common sense. If they specialise in that area, we cannot say: “Let us go and get some other people so that they can fill the gap.” So, qualification is key, and some of our public institutions dictate that we look at that. I come from a very highly cosmopolitan constituency. My constituency has all the 44 tribes, or whatever we call them. It has Luos, Kikuyus, Merus from Tigania, Igembe, Tharaka and Chuka. We also have the Embu. I have people from everywhere in the country. I cannot say I will not employ a particular individual because I am supposed to fulfil a certain aspect. I have to be careful because there are certain tribes in my constituency with a large population. The diversity of my community dictates how people will be absorbed in the private or public sector that is operating in my constituency. On the issue of information, there are very many people who do not get a lot of it. Currently, the Public Service Commission (PSC) is setting up its website. How many people have the digital capacity to access the PSC portal to learn about the kind of employment that exists? People in Nairobi will get it very fast. People with iPhones and smartphones, relatives in Nairobi, and Members of Parliament will get it. But there are those poor kids out there in villages who have no information. This means that those who are digitally enabled are the ones who are going to get that information and apply. The Committee needs to be sensitive to such matters. High-population areas with high population densities are natural. We cannot ignore it. If we have to put weight on some measures, some will be more than others. I believe we have not reached a point where we have to say we have 100 per cent of it. We can try to play politics with some of those things. The Committee Report needs to address those factors, not the obvious ones. You walk into an institution, and then ask how many Luos, Kambas, Merus and Luhyas are there, and you are given the report. I do not believe that will sort out the problem. Hon. Temporary Speaker, some of those things require long-term thinking. Our economy is growing, and the public sector is shrinking every day in this country. Sooner or later, we will find ourselves with a very small public sector. Will we be fighting and saying the Constitution will address a very small sector? With all due respect, we have to start looking at other things from another perspective."
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