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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Senate Majority Leader has been here for three terms. Therefore, he understands these things. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale also knows this but I do not want to dwell much on that. I was saying that this Bill will help our leaders at the grassroots called MCAs to be effective in terms of offering primary oversight in our counties. We keep on blaming our MCAs but we must also look at their conditions of working. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "If they have challenges in meeting their financial needs, they cannot perform primary oversight effectively. We have even seen in some counties MCAs becoming people who just move around with governors and defending them because they have no choice. They depend on handouts from the governors. We want to have a situation where our MCAs are independent of the county executives. That way, they will be able to perform their roles effectively and independently. This Bill by the Deputy Speaker guarantees that. We pass many Bills in this House but when they go to the National Assembly, they stay there without being acted on and eventually they lapse. I hope Members of the National Assembly are listening to us and are also sympathetic to the situation of our MCAs. I urge them to pass this Bill in record time, so that it becomes an Act of Parliament. That will help us to solve this long-standing problem affecting our important leaders at the grassroots and these are our MCAs. I support."
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"content": " Sen. Kathuri, you have the Floor."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Osotsi has raised an important point this afternoon, which has always been supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Sen. Osotsi, are you in any manner likely to bring another amendment so that the system can be automated, such that the Control of Budget (CoB) approves monies to the counties online without them coming to Nairobi to queue and bring greetings to Nairobi? Since there is a provision, you can as well amend this Bill. I will be glad if you do that."
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"content": " Sen. Osotsi, you may bring an amendment in that regard. Sen. Chimera, you have the Floor."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa fursa hii. Naunga mkono Mswada huu. Kama kuna Mswada katika muda ambao nimekuwa katika Bunge hili ambao ni muhimu na unafaa kupewa kipaumbele ni huu ambao umeletwa hapa na Naibu Spika, Sen. Kathuri, kutoka Kaunti ya Meru. Ni jambo la kushangaza kwamba mabunge ya kaunti ambayo kisheria yanafaa kuwa mstari wa mbele kuhakiki magavana ama utendakazi wa serikali za kaunti yanakosa fedha. Tunayanyima mabunge ya kaunti fedha za kuendesha shughuli na biashara zao ilhali pesa hizo wanapewa magavana. Kwa kweli, ugatuzi uko katika hatari kubwa kwa kuwa kuna ubadhirifu wa fedha katika kaunti zetu kwa sababu mabunge ya kaunti. Hali hiyo inafanya wao kutoweza kufanya kazi yao. Tukiwapa Wawakilishi wa Wadi pesa, wataweza kufanya mikutano na kuhakikisha kwamba iwapo gavana au waziri wa kaunti hafanyi kazi yake anaitwa na kukosolewa ili kazi ifanywe sawa sawa. Wawakilishi wa Kaunti vile vile wana majukumu mengi. Lazima makatibu wa mabunge ya kaunti wanyenyekee kwa magavana na Mawaziri wa Fedha katika kaunti. Hali hiyo inafanya tunapoteza maana yote ya ugatuzi. Nampongeza Naibu Spika. Yeye mwenyewe aliona kwamba ipo haja ya kuhakikisha kwamba mabunge yetu ya kaunti yanawezeshwa ili waweze kufanya"
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"content": "oversight role"
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Chimera",
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"content": "yao. Sisi Maseneta lazima tuwe mstari wa mbele kuhakikisha kwamba"
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"content": "MCAs"
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"content": "wanapata fursa. Wanafaa kupata mafunzo na kupewa pesa za kuwawezesha kufanya kazi yao. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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