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"content": " Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. From the outset, I want to---"
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"content": " Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, I beg your pardon, but has your voice changed in a certain manner?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not think so. I have not listened to myself, but this is the way I speak. From the outset, I want to sincerely thank the sponsor of this Bill. He will go down in history as the Messiah and saviour for the legislative arm of the county government. I am standing here as a true witness and victim of the level of manipulation, arm-twisting, submissiveness and atrocities committed by the Executive towards the county assemblies. I recall when I used to serve as a Member of County Assembly (MCA). I served for a decade, which is two terms and I think I have the necessary information that is supposed to guide this Bill. In very many instances, the so-called County Executive Committee Members (CECMs) are demigods in their own right when it comes to dispensation and making sure that the assemblies get money that is allocated to them from the Exchequer. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, to make sure that we strengthen oversight and check on malpractices and excesses of the county government and governor, the county assembly ought to be independent and autonomous in its operations. This autonomy is very The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "critical. I am even wondering why this Bill did not find its way to this House 12 years ago at the inception of devolution. We cannot be talking about oversight and the effectiveness of the county assembly and its government without strengthening the very arm of oversight; which is the legislative arm of the county assembly. It is common knowledge that you cannot effectively oversight somebody who is feeding you at will. Even some of the Impeachment Motions that we have seen before this House are generated from the defiant MCAs who have decided to oversight those governors. In quite a number of counties, most of the county assemblies are very submissive. They are subdued and coerced into singing the song of the relevant governor. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you notice that county assemblies are just replicas of the National Assembly and the Senate which draws money from the Exchequer’s directly. Having this County Assembly Fund is one way of making sure that we guarantee autonomy, strengthen devolution and the legislative work of the government. I am happy because I have gone through this broad Bill. It has captured quite a number of aspects. The Bill dictates that the Clerk of the county assembly shall be the head of the County Assembly Fund. In this current format, he is the accounting officer. The head of the fund shall ensure that the earnings and accruals of the fund are retained in the fund and spent only for the purposes for which the fund is intended. The Bill has created a lot of safeguards and protection. The whole exercise contained in this Bill is to make sure that there is a serious element of accountability, so that we do not have those county assemblies going over. It is a very noble idea. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I sincerely thank you because you are the sponsor of this Bill. I am happy that county assemblies across the country, including Meru where you come from and Tharaka Nithi will write your name in history as the person who created some elements of autonomy and independence to make sure that the legislative arm of the county government is strengthened. I strongly support this arrangement. I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Senator. Next is Sen. Faki."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii ili kuchangia Mswada wa Marekebisho wa Sheria ya Fedha 2023. Najiunga na maseneta wenzagu kukupongeza kwa Mswada huu ambao umekuja kujaribu kuwapa uhuru baraza za kaunti zetu ambazo ziko kwenye minyororo ya magavana wa kaunti zote 47. Nachukua fursa hii pia kutoa rambirambi zangu kwa mwendazake, Bw. Peter Oloo Aringo ambaye alileta Mswada wa kuidhibiti Bunge yani Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) kwa mara ya kwanza. Alikuwa pia mwenyekiti wa kwanza wa Tume ya Bunge hili. Tume hii imeweza kuipa Bunge ule uhuru ambao hivi sasa kama Maseneta na Wabunge tunafurahia. Mswada huu unajaribu kuipa fursa Bunge za Kaunti kudhibiti na kupata hazina zao kivyao. Kwa sasa, fedha za Mabunge ya kaunti zinapitia kwenye Executive; yani hazina kuu ya kaunti na mwenye kusema pale ni gavana na waziri wa fedha. Mswada huu utawapa fursa Wabunge wa Bunge zetu za ugatuzi kuhakikisha wanafanya mambo yao kwa uhuru. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mara nyingi wanapotaka kusafiri ni lazima wasubiri pesa zitoke kwenye hazina kuu. Wakitaki pia kufanya miradi yao vile vile ni lazima wasubiri pesa. Hili linachangia pakubwa mara nyingi wao kufungia macho zile dhambi zinazofanywa na Executive katika kaunti hizi. Malamiko mengi katika kaunti ni kuwa Bunge hizo hazifanyi kazi kikamilifu. Hili limesababishwa na ule uoga waliyonao kwamba iwapo wataweza kufanya kazi yao kikamilifu, basi magavana na wengine wengi watakuwa katika shida kubwa ya utekelezaji wa miradi ambayo inafanyika katika kaunti hizo. Jambo lingine nilikuwa nikitaka kugusia ni kuwa kwa sasa, ijapokuwa kuna uwiano, yani mediation unaoendelea kati ya Bunge hili na Bunge la Kitaifa kwa masuala ya ugavi wa fedha, kaunti zetu kwa muda wa miezi minne hazijapata fedha. Tumeona magavana wengi ‘wakipiga kelele na kulia’, kwa sababu mapato ambayo wanaokota katika kaunti zao hayawezi kulipa mishahara, kutekeleza huduma wala kununua madawa katika zahanati na hospitali. Iko haja ya kuiambia Serikali itumie kipengee cha sheria kinachosema kwamba wanaweza kupeleka asilimia 50 ya pesa walizopeleka mwaka jana. Kwa mfano, mwaka jana walipeleka shilingi bilioni 355 kwa kaunti zetu badala ya shilingi ya shilingi bilioni 385. Ukizingatia asilimi mia 50, basi wapeleke kiwango cha chini shilingi bilioni 150 ili kaunti zetu zisilemae kwa sababu ya ukosefu wa fedha za kufanya ile miradi ambayo imekusudiwa kufanyika. Bw. Naibu Spika, la mwisho ni, ijapokuwa tunajaribu kuzisaidia mabunge yetu ya kaunti ili yaweze kuwa na uhuru, mara nyingi, uhuru unatokana na wabunge wa kaunti zetu. Ikiwa watajiweka rahisi na saa zote kufuata vile ambavyo gavana ama mawaziri wanafanya katika kaunti, kazi ya uangalizi itakuwa ni shida sana katika kaunti zetu. Mara nyingi, unyonge uko kwa Wabunge wa kaunti. Sio kwamba sheria haiwalindi. Lakini tukiangalia, kazi kubwa wanayofanya kama vile kupitsha bajeti, hawawezi kulazimishwa kupitisha bajeti katika mabunge yao. Lakini mara nyingi huwa wanautepetevu na ukosefu wa uhuru ambao unawafanya wao kukubali yale ambayo yanafanyaika bila kutoa nafasi ya kuhakikisha ya kwamba wanaangalia maslahi ya umma na wananchi katika kaunti zao. Mhe. Naibu Spika, naunga mkono Mswada huu."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Kathure",
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"content": " Sen. Boni Khalwale, the Senate Minority Whip, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Without looking like I am repeating what my colleagues have said, you deserve to be congratulated for this industry. I will tell you why in the next five minutes. There lived a man in this country and today he is lying dead, Peter Castro Oloo Aringo. I am privileged to have been in Parliament with him and I know the difference he made in our lives when PSC saw the light of the day. I, therefore, would like to use this opportunity to send my condolences to this fallen hero, especially to the people of Siaya, who he served so well. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was reading about his story and how he related to the people of Siaya--- I could see an Osotsi, a man who goes home and people flock into his compound, just to ask for small favours that make a whole difference in their lives. I The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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