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"content": "always sit in my home and when I give a woman Kshs400 - if I was to do it in Nairobi, people would think that I am crazy. However, when I give this woman Kshs400 and she buys uniform for her daughter, the daughter will march on and top at the national examination at Malinya, Shikunga, Shibuye, Lukhuna, Shimuli primary schools and all the other Primary schools. It makes a big difference. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, having said this, I would like to persuade you. What you are curing is to make the counties independent. However, in the structure of this proposal, you are making them independent from the governor because we have created a monster in this law called the administrator. In this case, they will now become slaves of the administrator called the Clerk. Using this Act if we do not improve it, the clerk will do what he likes and our MCAs will have to dance to his tune. I beg you to read from the establishment of the Public Service Commission vis-à-vis the establishment of the PSC. We borrowed one from the other. Similarly, when we established the County Assembly Public Service Board (CAPSB), we were informed by the Public Service Commission. So, when we go to the third reading, I will propose that we amend Clause 109(a)(3), (4), (5), (6), (7) and (8) for this reason- That everywhere you have put the word ‘administrator’, I will request you, and since this is your Bill, you should agree, we replace it with ‘County Assembly Administrative Board (CAAB). In this CAAB, which replaces the administrator. Therefore, the Speaker of the County Assembly becomes the Chairman. The clerk is the Chief Executive Officer (CEO), while the Vice-Chairperson of that board to be one of the County Assembly Members, then both the opposition and the Majority in the County Assembly will propose an equal number of people, the equivalent of our commissioners. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, can you imagine the clerk controlling billions of shillings, how powerful he will be? The clerk as an individual, talks with the Controller of the Budget (CoB). The two of them can actually withdraw anything up to, including Kshs1 billion. Given that this is a fund; it means that money going into this account will not go back to the National Treasury. Therefore, there is a possibility that at one time, you could get billions of shillings into an account to be controlled by only one man or woman. This is not the responsibility we can put in the hands of one person unless he is Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I say this knowing that your intention is to make MCAs stronger and independent and strengthen the oversight role. If this is the case, why then are you strengthening the clerk instead of the institution of the county assembly? My final contribution to this important Bill as far as Clause 109 (b) is concerned where it says the fund shall be used for those given reasons; (a), (b) and (c), I propose we add (d) and say the fund will also underwrite development in counties. If they are only doing administrative, where will the development that is required in the county assemblies come from? Are you telling me that after we have formed this fund and we want to build a new county assembly as we do in Kakamega, or do major The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "renovations in the county assembly, we go back to the county executive? That will be the wrong way of enacting a law. I propose that we add 109(d) to address this. Having said that, allow me to make one running comment on the state of counties"
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"content": "vis-à-vis"
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"content": "how our governors and MCAs are working. There has never been greater deceit in this country. There has never been an opportunity for greater connivance to steal like what is happening in some of our counties and Kakamega being one of them. In my county, we ran a project running into billions, the so-called 10-mile-per- ward project and millions of shillings were sunk in. However, when you go to Kakamega, there is no single 10-kilometre-road project that is complete in any ward. Our MCAs, especially in Kakamega, have been reduced to cheering squads. You go to a public function where you are sharing the platform with the governor like in the case of Vihiga where the young Osotsi has expressed interest in running for governor, they will start jeering him. If it is in a funeral, the MCAs will not even wait for Osotsi to say his name and he has come to pay his condolences, they will immediately start wailing and booing. Like in Kakamega, some of the MCAs who are vulnerable to this kind of thing are our nominated ones. You see them getting hysterical. I got one and if I mention her name, I will be put to task. I asked her why she was doing that. She told me my brother, things are so difficult that I was given Kshs3,000. For Kshs3,000, an elected leader screams herself hoarse. I will do this for Mama Imbosa in Kakamega."
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"content": " Do you want to be informed by Sen. Beatrice Ogola?"
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"content": "Beatrice is always very informative. I welcome her."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I needed to inform the Senate Majority Whip and my senior, that the state of the elected leaders is even worse in the counties. This is because the elected MCAs have a duty to deliver to their wards and to their voters. They are literally lining up in the offices of the executive and following up the CECMs. They even beg them. So, if the nominated leaders are blowing vuvuzelas, the elected leaders are worse off. That is the information that I wanted to give Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale to build up to what he is saying."
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"content": "I thank Sen. Ogola for that information. I thought it was happening only in Vihiga and Kakamega counties; it is even happening in Homa Bay. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am congratulating you and vowing on this Floor that for the sake of the devolution family and as a champion of devolution, that I am doing this so as to help Mama Imbosa, nominated MCA. When she told me they were doing so to earn Kshs3,000, I felt sorry for her and I knew they are truly suffering. I am doing this for my cousin; the elected MCA, Silas Muyeyia. I feel sorry when I see him. I am doing this for Archeadious Liyai; my MCA in Idakho Central. The person is huge and he weighs around 150-200 kilogrammes."
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"content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale must you describe or mention their names on this Floor or describe their physical appearance?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am guided."
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