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"content": "There is the New Clause 30A. This refers to the supplementary valuation roll that - “the county government shall, in preparing a valuation roll, rely on data or information that was used in the preparation of the valuation roll to assign values to be adopted as the properties contained in the supplementary valuation roll.” The Committee deliberated on this and where the county government has reason to believe that a supplementary valuation roll needs to be prepared, the county government shall cause a supplementary valuation roll to be prepared where necessary. Chapter 3 refers to recommendations that the Committee have made. There is Clause 34 and Clause 36. As I move this Motion and request the Majority Whip to second it, I want to say that the Mediation Committee was seamless, and we listened to every Committee Member. We were led well by the Chairperson and the Vice- Chairperson, and because of the objectivity, we agreed on a number of the Clauses. I move this Motion and request the Majority Whip to second. This is a Motion on the National Rating Bill (National Assembly Bills No.55 of 2022), that will help us to solve a number of challenges that Kenyans and particularly county governments have undergone."
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"content": " Thank you, Sen. Ogola. Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise to second the Motion on the Report of the Mediation Committee on the National Rating Bill (National Assembly Bill. No.55 of 2022) as moved by the Chairperson of this Committee, Sen. Beatrice Ogola. Allow me to congratulate the Committee of this House together with the Committee of the National Assembly. When they came together in a Mediation Committee, led by the Hon. Joash Nyamoko and deputised by our colleague, Sen. John Methu Muhia, they have done a very good job. Allow me to also congratulate the Nominated Senator for Homa Bay County for ably moving this Motion. Listening to the young lady, it forces me to congratulate her party, the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM). Seeing her ability in this discourse is a case for other political parties to always use a very high standard in giving special elected seats to members. Listening to Sen. Beatrice, you clearly see that she adds value to business in this House and definitely by extension, I hope back at home in Homa Bay. As I second this Motion, I always think back on how members of the public in this area have forever remained vulnerable. Ordinarily, when you want to exchange property and are relying on a valuer, you have no idea the criteria they use to rate your property or premises. However, this law is moving into that direction. We are protecting members of the public more and more. Whereas we are trying to standardise rating across counties, I am alive to the fact that, Sen. Beatrice Ogola, even when you go to Homa Bay County, you can move from one sublocation to the other within the county and a property which is comparable is given totally different values and you are always left at loss. Probably, you wanted to use the rating to access a loan and someone from a certain sublocation has a better rating than you who comes from the other sublocation, yet you come from the same county. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I, therefore, thank this industry. Since Sen. Beatrice Ogola has taken the House through this Report by speaking to clause by clause as discussed in the Committee, I am not going to belabor it. However, I use this opportunity to urge my government to ensure that we employ more valuers. It is very difficult to access services of valuers for members of the public. In a big county like Kakamega, for example, you have to queue for a very long time to see Mr. Edwin Odor, our valuer. At the time he was doing it, he would also go to our neighbours in Kisumu to do some work there. Since our university keeps on churning out graduates, we should give these young people an opportunity to get employment, so that members of the public have access to this critical service. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second the Motion."
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"content": " Now, hon. Members, I will, for those who are interested in contributing to this particular Motion, allow your contributions. I will start with the Senator for Nandi, Sen. Samson Cherarkey."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity and also to welcome you back. I am aware you were on an official parliamentary tour monitoring the U.S. elections. I want to take this opportunity to thank and congratulate the people of the United States of America. Specifically, we want to applaud the election of the 45th and 47th President of the United States of America, Donald Trump and wish him well as he serves. I hope he will give policies that will be of help to Kenya and across the world, specifically, our Haiti mission that we have to assist. We have several agreements that President William Ruto went to the United States to engage. I hope that engagement between the U.S. Government and the Kenyan Government will continue to benefit us. In fact, as His Excellency Donald Trump was being elected to office, there was a hashtag suggesting that the current U.S. envoy, Meg Whitman, should leave the country. Nonetheless, to be fair to her, she has been supportive of the Kenyan Government. She is one of the ambassadors who have marketed Kenya more than any other special envoy or high commissioner to this country. I request Kenyans to give her a break; she is doing a lot. There is a misnomer in this country that when you are an ambassador, you must work with the opposition of the Government. That is not true. Any ambassador to this country must work closely with all Kenyans, both Government and opposition. So, the people who want to start hashtags, Twitter, or X against a U.S. ambassador are being unfair. Therefore, there is a song on the street that says, “ waende wasikievibaya na huko kwao”, I saw women demonstrate. They were disappointed that Kamala Harris could not succeed as President of the U.S. At least, she gave it a trial. We are proud of women. We hope they will be inspired. I always knew Donald Trump would win because I have been to America on several occasions, and I know the ‘ground’, huwa anasikiza ground’. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I will do this in quick succession because I will take two minutes to support this Motion. I want to congratulate Sen. Beatrice Ogola for moving this mediated version of the National Rating Bill. I am privileged to serve on the County Public Accounts Committee. The Senator for Kakamega should note that as we talk today, the County Government of Kakamega, Lamu, Nandi, and many other county governments, including Bomet, do not have a complete asset register that gives rise to valuation role. The definition of a valuation role is for local taxation to value property where you are using rating to value those properties. Many counties do not meet the Own Source Revenue targets because they do not have a complete asset register and a valuation role to allow the valuation to be done on those properties and allow the county governments to levy either local taxation or charges or fees. Therefore, I would also request this Committee to recommend that the Transitional Authority by Kinuthia Wamwangi in 2013, an Intergovernmental Relations Technical Committee, fast-track the transfer of assets and liabilities to county governments to allow them to have a complete asset register and, therefore, to give them rights to do the valuation role. It has been a challenge. I am happy the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget of the Senate refused to reduce the allocation to the counties. As a Senate, we are proposing through Division of Revenue Act (DORA), which we passed overwhelmingly, to have it at Kshs402 billion. The amended DORA that came back from the National Assembly had been slashed to Kshs380 billion, which was way below Kshs385 billion that we suggested last financial year. The only hope is in fiscal discipline and responsibility in counties. We have already encouraged them to do Own-Source Revenue (OSR). The only way to ensure counties maximize OSR is passing the mediated version of the National Rating Bill (National Assembly Bills No.55 of 2022) and through the Intergovernmental Relations Technical Committee (IGTRC), get them a valuation role, so that they can rate and evaluate their property in order to rise up to the OSR. The IGTRC should also come on board. I want to pass my deepest condolences to the parents who lost a child at Longisa Hospital; it is heartbreaking. I would have expected my friend, the Governor of Bomet County, to have taken decisive action. I expected that the Committee led by Sen. Mandago would be on site at Longisa Hospital to find out. I have seen my lecturer of Law, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda Odhiambo, SC, is one of the chief campaigners of Rt. Hon. Raila Odinga. I was surprised to see him in the African Union (AU) the other day. He taught me that there is responsibility of emergency medical care, where you do not need to pay. That child died writhing in pain at Longisa Referral Hospital. In fact, that hospital should not be called referral. It should be closed. It is so tragic that a baby is dying because parents cannot afford to pay money. I would have expected the County Executive Committee Member (CECM) for Health, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) and any other person who is in charge of that hospital to resign out of good faith and morality. The Governor should have fired them like yesterday. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am happy you led the Members of Parliament (MP) from Bomet County there. If it is possible that they fail to take action, we can support the parents. The Standing Committee on Health of the Senate can visit Longisa Hospital and cross-check. They can even write to Kenya Medical Practitioners Pharmacists and Dentist Union (KMPDU) for action against those officers who did not do their job. I agree with Sen. Ogola. Let us talk about professionalism. In fact, those nurses who allowed that child to die should have their licenses cancelled by Kenya National Union of Nurses to show seriousness. Even in Senate, we have said that the Institute of Certified Public Accountants of Kenya (ICPAK) members who give us adverse opinions when they are doing the auditing must be punished by being struck off from the ICPAK list. The nurses at Longisa Hospital who were on duty, including the chief nurse, should lose their license of practice for not giving that medical attention. Our prayers and thoughts are with the family, and you can convey our deepest condolences. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on the issue of valuation role---"
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"content": " What is your point of order, Sen. Ogola? Allow Sen. Ogola to give her intervention."
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