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            "content": "With those remarks, I beg to second. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim): Ordinarily, I should have said even camel herders and camel businessmen should get their Bill."
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            "content": "Member for Gichugu, you may have the Floor."
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            "content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me say that I am one of the Members of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives who have worked very hard to bring this Bill to this level. Actually, it is one of the biggest or most voluminous Bills we have in this House. It has 168 clauses and three detailed schedules. This is all done and sponsored. This is a Government sponsored Bill. That shows this Government is very keen on addressing issues that have bedevilled the cooperative sector in this country. Let me start by thanking Members of the Committee because we had to sit for very long hours. We have had very many meetings. We have gone clause by clause and considered the numerous summations given or submitted by the public during the public participation that we did across the country. We divided ourselves into various groups. I led the group that went to Mount Kenya. The response by co-operators was very encouraging. They need this law like yesterday. I also thank the team from the Ministry that the Permanent Secretary for Cooperatives, PS Kilemi, led. Of course, I also thank the Cabinet Secretary who came in. They even used to attend our meetings during consideration of the Bill. That shows the commitment this Government has given in addressing issues of cooperatives in this country. I am also excited because my coffee farmers in Gichugu Constituency will benefit much from the passage of this Bill. The issues of governing cooperative societies, including dairy cooperative societies, will now be addressed by this Bill. Going into the meat, this Bill asserts the supremacy of members of cooperatives in making decisions during general meetings of cooperatives. Cooperatives have sometimes operated even without registered offices. It also addresses that. Once we pass this Bill, briefcase cooperatives will be a thing of the past. The Bill requires a registered office where members can access their books of accounts and all the details pertaining a cooperative society. That is a very progressive matter. The Cooperatives Act being repealed was enacted in 1997. That is 27 years ago. We are living in a very dynamic economic situation, and not every person is straightforward in this space. That is why when this Bill says that proper books of accounts must be kept according to international standards, that will also require cooperative societies to employ professionals to run their affairs as CEOs and other staff running these cooperative societies. The law that we are making also demands that those books of accounts should be audited annually according to international standards. That is a space that most of the cooperative societies have been failing because some have been taken like personal cooperative societies."
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            "content": "Another issue that will be addressed is on the matter of taking loans. This Bill requires that any decision by a cooperative society to take any loan must be approved by members at a general meeting. We have seen very many cooperative societies collapse by just taking loans haphazardly without even consulting the membership. Some cooperatives collapsed because the officials managing them gave out loans to people who were not even members of the cooperative society. There are instances where the cooperative leadership took any amounts of loans they wished. Such loans made most of the cooperative societies collapse."
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            "content": "As a Committee, we also looked at the issue of the Tribunal being addressed by this Bill. It is our feeling, and I believe Members will also support us, that the membership of this Tribunal should be increased to nine so that it can have a quorum of three, and can split into three and move across the country to address all the cases that may come up, in a very effective and fast manner. This will ensure that co-operators are not waiting for their cases to be heard yet some of the cases are very minor. We, therefore, want to make it as easy as possible for the disputes that will arise in the cooperative movement to be sorted. In this case, we have proposed that the chairman should be assisted by two deputies, so that a chairman can head one quorum, one deputy can head another quorum, and the other deputy can head the third one. This is"
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            "content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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            "content": "because there is a requirement that both the chairman and their deputy should be lawyers. How else can we achieve this? Without anticipating debate, this is a proposal that we will be seeking during the Committee of the whole House for the House to agree with us and support."
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            "speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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            "content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, since a lot has already been explained by the Mover and the Seconder, let me also allow as many Members who are around to contribute, by pausing at that point. But there is a lot for the co-operators of this country to benefit from of this Bill. This House has been committed about this Bill. There have been outbursts out there that the House, the leadership and the Government are not committed. This is an assertion that this House and the Government at large is committed to sort out all the issues of the co-operators in this country, and we will do it for the benefit of our people and for the progress of the cooperative movement in this country."
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