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"speaker_name": "Rangwe, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Lilian Gogo",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker and honourable colleagues, for coming to discuss a matter of national importance. Healthcare is a basic right. A healthy nation speaks to the development and progress of that nation. The SHIF is designed to improve universal healthcare."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Hon. (Dr) Lilian Gogo, would you first move just to the extent possible? I know the Motion is in terms of what was approved. You do not have to read the whole of it. If you can, pick certain items so that you move faster."
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"content": " I am just doing a component. I was just about to finish. The objectives are commendable as SHIF aims to bridge critical gaps. Although its rollout has faced several challenges, it is important that we look at this as a matter of national importance. I beg to move."
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"content": " Yes, proceed. You had moved. Maybe, I should clarify to Hon. Members from the beginning. Hon. (Dr) Lilian Gogo, you have 10 minutes. Under the Standing Orders, all other Members have not more than five minutes. Proceed."
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"content": " Thank you very much. It is usually the desire of every Government to provide healthcare to its citizenry. As it were, there was need to change from the National Hospital Insurance Fund (NHIF) that was old and of old generation to what was presumed to be a better quality healthcare system, the SHIF, which is managed by the SHA. First, very many aspects have been brought and the citizens are confused. They do not know whether it is NIF, SHI or SHA. They do not know whether it is SHU. People need to be apprised that it is not SHISHA. People need to be apprised on this matter because it affects their health. Some Ksh32,000 and more were deducted from my salary of last month. This caused delays but it eventually went. I am told that those who are not able can pay as low as Ksh500 and still get healthcare. The challenge I have, and which is making me raise this matter, is whether these monies go to the ground. Do they go to intended persons? How much has this programme allocated to purchasing equipment? How much has this programme put aside for training of healthcare workers? We have seen our highly trained doctors and nurses being encouraged to look for jobs abroad. As much as money is taken from my salary, my concern is whether this money reaches a poor pregnant woman who is going to deliver at the Rangwe Sub-County Hospital. My view is that there should have been a smooth six months’ transition period. People should have been sensitised. Now, because of issues of trust, the citizens are refusing even to register to the SHIF. They have not been explained to why they need to pay yet the money is delayed. If you go to hospital, you are told that you have not been transferred to SHIF yet I get messages on my phone that I have been successfully transferred. Now, am I successfully transferred to SHIF because I am a Member of Parliament or do the other ordinary citizens get the same messages? If we are able to do that, why not do it for everybody? Why not do it so that people are not turned away when they go to our hospitals? Women and caregivers suffer the most. More often than not, caregivers are women who have to take care of children, the vulnerable, people with disabilities, and the elderly yet when they go to hospital, they are turned away. If we do not look at this matter critically, sit as a community and lawmakers, and the Executive does not rethink policies and the gaps that it creates and how they can be covered, then it is the grass that will suffer. The grass is the mother of Akinyi and Adhiambo. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we are taking Kenyans for granted. I also think we are creating unnecessary positions to benefit the elite in our community. If the Social Health Authority was rolled out on 1st October and is almost advancing into November, what is it doing to make sure that as many citizens as possible are registered? I went to a registration camp in one of the counties where people were being registered by clerks and I noted that there were two questions that had to be filled: do you live in a rental house or do you own a house? That is the question you are asked. The most obvious thing is to say that you pay rent if you"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "do. They hide some of these questions to corner citizens. When you say that you are paying rent, it means that you are salaried and they go for your salary. If you say you live in your own house, they put you in a category of people who are paying less. Can we not have a foolproof system? Why do we not have a system that moves smoothly? My concern is that we are failing most sectors of our economy, but we should not play around with healthcare. All of us are seated here today because of one reason: the grace of God. That is why we are well. If you go to our hospitals, people are writhing in absolute pain. We have increased cancer cases. I am shocked because we now have increased cancer cases among the middle-aged. How are we going to take care of our young people if we have a healthcare system that cannot be rolled out smoothly? Besides that, we have a healthcare system that cannot make money reach where it is intended to reach. Private hospitals provide substantial assistance."
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"content": " You have 30 seconds to conclude."
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"content": " I thank you for the 30 seconds. Private hospitals provide healthcare, but these are people you can never negotiate with. When our people go there, they are turned away. When they go to public hospitals, they are turned away. Where will the poor Kenyans go to? As a Member of Parliament, when I go to the constituency I am told by my teaching community and the elite to talk about ‘SHI’, SHA, SHO’. I thank you."
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