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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will conclude in a minute. The CECs of health in our counties should take up this challenge. This is because other than the Kenyan public, the other major beneficiaries of SHIF are county governments. We legislated the Facility Improvement Fund in this House. I know many politicians will not tell Kenyans that this Fund empowers their local dispensary to have a committee which can procure equipment and medicine at that local level. The number of people registered in that facility will enable it to access the Facility Improvement Fund. It will ensure that a hospital in, say, Gatune, which is in a far flung area and the most remote corner of my constituency, Kikuyu, will be able to access the Facility Improvement Fund. This will allow them to equip their dispensary, stock essential medicines, and have the financial resources to hire doctors. We legislated and made it possible …"
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"content": " Thank you, Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Andrew Okuome, the Minority Whip will take precedence over you. For the avoidance of doubt, Hon. Millie will always speak before you whenever she wants."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. That is, however, discriminatory because the tallest men should be speaking before. But having said that, I thank Hon. Dr Lilian Gogo for bringing this before the House. Article 43 of our Constitution provides for the right to the highest attainable standard of health, including reproductive health care. I know that this House passed a new legal framework that replaces the NHIF. We passed four Bills and I was in the House when that was being done. I was, especially, opposed to certain parts of that Bill, but that is now water under the bridge. We have a new legal framework now. Having listened to several Hon. Members, that is, Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah, Hon. Nyikal, and the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health, one of the things that I can say is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We would be cheating ourselves to say that here are the benefits because we do not know them yet. If you are an excellent person at monitoring and evaluation, you cannot say within a month that there are benefits that can be seen. So yes, we will probably see them much later. We can, however, see photos of people who are in hospitals and struggling to access healthcare, especially those with renal issues and cancer patients. Even though I know Hon. Ichung’wah is castigating many Members, whom he accuses of pushing propaganda…"
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"content": "(Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record)"
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"content": "Oh, he is saying one Member. I do not know who that is, since I am not too sure. I am also not very keen on the politics of the Mountain. What I wanted to say is that we need to acknowledge that there are very serious transition issues over this issue. If we lose a life, we can never regain it. Right now, I have a person who is very close to me and undergoing cancer treatment, and will not receive any treatment unless there is pre-authorisation of payment. Being at a place that I am in, maybe, they are able to authorise. For different factors, we can. The cries we are getting from our own constituents and ordinary Kenyans tell you that there is a huge problem with the transition, which was not done efficiently."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "I encourage the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health to schedule a"
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"content": "Kamukunji"
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"content": "for Members of Parliament. I am a lawyer and I was here when this was passed. Many would want to sit here and pretend that we understand and know. There are many things that I do not understand about this and yet I passed this law. What about ordinary Kenyans? Schedule an urgent Kamukunji for Members of Parliament so that they understand what this new system is all about. Secondly, we need to stop most of the things we are doing in this country so that members of the public understand and know how they can access healthcare. This is because healthcare should be the most primary right for everybody. How will you help me when I am dead? How will it be of benefit to me? Even if you were to compensate, I will be dead. We need to take this issue more seriously than we are doing. Let us listen to the cries of Kenyans. If the health system is not working and many poor people cannot access healthcare system, then there is a problem. Leader of the Majority, please, listen. This transition is not working well. Please, inform whoever needs to be informed so that they take urgent action. The transition is not working well. Thank you, Hon. Dr Lilian for bringing this."
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"content": " Hon. Members, I would request we speak for not more than three minutes, so that as many of us as possible can contribute. The Hon. Omboko Milemba."
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