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"content": "This is as a result of not knowing what is going on. We need to reverse the situation in a way that everybody can be given a chance to life."
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"content": " Hon. Andrew Okuome, your time is up. Hon. Wilberforce Oundo, in two minutes."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have been at the top of the log for long, but it is okay. There are two issues here that the Committee and the Executive need to address. One, majority of the hospitals have got legacy debts from NHIF, and probably there are no sufficient legal mechanisms to transfer the liabilities of NHIF to SHA. Therefore, many hospitals are not happy and are not willing to take up more responsibility and more debt. It is, therefore, the Executive assures service providers that whatever they are owed by NHIF, will still be taken over by SHA after due diligence process is completed. Secondly, we might have an insurance cover but if the primary facilities do not have adequate resources, then the entire system will collapse. With that, because we are running short of time this is a good idea. Let the Executive work on how to resolve these issues."
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " The last person is Hon. Eric Muchangi."
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"speaker_name": "Runyenjes, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Muchangi Karemba",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity. I wish to thank Hon. Dr Lilian Gogo for this important Adjournment Motion. I agree with Hon. Members who have said that there is need for more sensitisation and information sharing about SHIF. I did research in my constituency and saw that a considerable number of people had registered with SHIF. However, this new programme has its own challenges. Sometimes, in this country we have very ambitious programmes like tree planting where everyone is involved. On this important healthcare issue, I believe that the Government and leaders need to invest more time in educating our people so that they can get enlisted in"
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"speaker_name": "Runyenjes, UDA",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "this programme. We should not fear it because it is new. In this country, we have a tendency of rejecting almost everything. The new health scheme is not a bad idea. So, we need to invest more time in informing our people. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Hon. (Dr) Eve Obara make your contribution in two minutes."
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"speaker_name": "Kabondo Kasipul, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Eve Obara",
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"content": " Thank you, very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to give a raw feedback from my constituency and its environs because there is a big problem. Patients are being turned away if they do not have cash. Even those who had money in their NHIF cards are also being turned away. We need to do something. We say, a healthy nation is a wealthy nation. The amount of money being recovered from people’s payslips is making them poorer. Here in Parliament, Hon. Members are being deducted Ksh360,000 per annum which is a lot of money. This is enough to give you a cover where you can be evacuated from anywhere. Not to mention other civil servants who are paying the Housing Levy. Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is nothing wrong in admitting that we have not managed the transition properly. So, we should go back and re-look at this issue. We can have a cap of how much we can pay per month or per annum. This should not be a rate that is pegged on your salary. This was a good idea but its implementation and transition are the problem. What happened to the Ksh30 billion provision that was meant for hospitals that were not paid by NHIF? Where is this money? They should be paid. How can I give you service if you cannot pay what you owed me previously? We need to re-look at this. We are not saying that it has failed but we need to review and see what can be done to give Kenyans the universal health coverage that was promised. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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