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"content": " We will not discuss the progress report that we have just been given by Sen. Faki."
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"content": "Then we can do the university model by the Chair."
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"content": " Absolutely."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me be the first to have the bite on the cherry. I support the Statement by Sen. Wafula on the issue of Bungoma employees. In most of the audit reports that come to the Senate, almost all counties are beyond 35 per cent in their fiscal responsibility. In fact, you have been a governor and you will notice that most counties are going beyond 35 per cent in terms of employees’ compensation. This crisis is also in Nandi. Yesterday when the Nandi County Assembly tabled a report on ad hoc committee, one of the crises that we are facing is on the issue of employees. Even the current sitting governor has employed his close relatives, among other individuals. They are gobbling a lot of money and which is very unfortunate. This report has been underscored by the Public Service Commission (PSC) which did a Human Resource (HR) audit in Nandi County. It is very unfortunate that many counties are struggling with this, especially in non-payment of statutory deductions. The counties are maybe not giving pension for their employees. We have this issue in Nandi and Bungoma counties. I hope with time, we can address it going into the future. On the issue of university funding model, I thank the President that after the hue and cry, he decided to form a commission to look into it. This is the Presidential Working Party on Education. Nonetheless, in my own opinion there are many challenges. Some of us who used Higher Education Loans Board (HELB) know that there are many tools we can use to fund university education in this country. I thank the Chair of the Committee on Education, Sen. Joe Nyutu. My proposal is that we only need to have Band I and II. Band I will be for the people who are vulnerable. There are many yardsticks we can use. For instance, wazeewa mitaa, the priest or the sheikh to determine who falls under Band I. On Band II; this should be parents who are not vulnerable, but are unable to finance the education. We also need to widen this. Remember, you being a senior lawyer in this country, the students who go to Kenya School of Law (KSL) are not able to access the loans from HELB. I know Senior Counsel, Sen. Omogeni, is also aware of this. The teachers who undergo teachers training programme also cannot access the funding. Hence, this new university funding model will ensure that university education and that of tertiary colleges is well covered. Going into the future, I think we need to agree as a country to sit and resolve the issue of university funding model by ensuring that it is student-centred funding. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": " One minute to go, Senator."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Although we receive bashing from National Assembly that we should not be discussing such matters, I thought everything concerns counties. These students we are talking about come from counties. Therefore, I think the National Assembly should get busy ama waende wasikie vibaya nahuko kwao ."
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Ogola."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to comment on the university funding model. It is also fortunate that the Committee on Education just took us to a very engaging sensitisation with the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) caucus. The focus was purely on what we are discussing now. We are very convinced that the Committee on Education will be able to tackle some of the challenges. The university funding model has real challenges out there. I remember sharing with the Committee on Education and all of us agreed that there are challenges that we must face as a country. Mr. Speaker, Sir, even as we sit here, I was with some university students yesterday and a number of our university students are not living in the hostels. Those hostels are vacant. They are not vacant because the students cannot use them; no. They are vacant because students cannot afford them. The payment for the hostels, food and fees as is structured in the funding model, are untenable. What is the main objective of us taking children to school? It is also worth noting that not all bright students that go to universities come from able families. A number of our people will not afford university education with the new university funding model. Therefore, it must be attended to. Secondly, I must mention the challenges we are having with the Junior Secondary School Education. Right now, there is a rush to build classrooms for Grade 9 students. As a country, are we saying that we are not able to plan for our children? That as they grow from one level to the next, we cannot plan so that we do things in a rush. I will also repeat the same issue I have always repeated here, that JSS is not being handled properly. There are no adequate teachers to handle the nine teaching subjects in our schools. A majority of the schools have a maximum of four subjects being covered against nine subjects. How will our candidates in future compete with other candidates in the region and internationally? The challenges in the JSS must be addressed. I support."
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"content": " Sen. Gloria. You have three minutes."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to add my voice on the new university funding model, especially on the issue of determining the level of need. This has caused a lot of conflict because most households have considered that approach not fair. I urge that we clean up this process. On the issue of TVETs, when you look at the discrepancy on the funding model, you will find TVETs are undermined and yet we have been pushing for these institutions so as to have our youth get plugged into skills like entrepreneurship and others found at TVETs. However, when you look at how the funding model is put together, it discriminates against those students going to TVETs. If you look at what is happening The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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