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"content": " Yes. With your indulgence, Hon. Deputy Speaker, let me allow Hon. Sabina to contribute."
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"content": "I have only allowed Hon. Sabina to take some of your time. After that, you will reply briefly and then we can go to the next Order."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I want to thank the Mover of the Bill. I came running because I wanted to speak and say that I support the Bill 100 per cent. Co-operatives originated from Murang’a, as Hon. Wamuchomba has mentioned. Back in the 1960s and the 1970s, co-operative societies in Murang’a County could lend money to the national Government. I am happy that we will manage those co-operatives. I stand here to honour one man, the late Muchiri, who was a co-operative officer, and later became the president of co-operatives in Africa. He was from Murang’a County, specifically Maragwa Constituency, Kamahuha Village. There is only one element which the Member can add to the Bill. We had the Co- operatives College, which later became the Co-operatives University. It trained students strictly on the management of co-operatives. There are now many loopholes because we converted all our technical institutes and colleges into universities, and diverged from the previous training. Let us see how we can incorporate the training of co-operators into the Bill, so that even the youth can join co-operatives and help their elderly parents in management. Thank you for donating that one minute. I support the Bill."
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"content": "Mover, you may proceed."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I first want to take this opportunity to thank all the Members who have contributed to the Bill, and to also appreciate the immense support that they have accorded it. The Bill has received unanimous support, clearly showing that it was timely. This is what Kenyans need at this point in time, especially in terms of coming together and putting resources together. I wish to remind the public and Members that the Bill’s intent is rooted in Article 186 of the Constitution. It is part of a broader national co-operatives policy whose intent is to harmonise the governance of co-operatives across the counties and ensure uniform standards, while respecting devolution. The previous Act did not consider the devolved units. That why it is very important that we harmonise the management of co-operatives between the counties and the national Government, and make it easy. The Bill also addresses the sectoral challenges that arise from governance and financial resilience, which seeks to improve co-operative governance by embedding principles of transparency and strong financial oversight, thereby protecting members’ investments. We all live in this country. We have seen people coming up with savings and credit co-operatives (SACCOs) to hoodwink Kenyans who have a genuine intent to grow their wealth. They invest with those SACCOS imagining that those investments will positively grow their wealth. Instead, those people steal their funds. Such scenarios are rampant in the entire country. Everybody has faced such. Some pose as co-operatives, but they end up being pyramid schemes. We all know of the pyramid schemes that have existed in this country such as DECI. Even the men of the cloth form co-operatives and tell people that they want to buy land or property. They hoodwink and"
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Silvanus Osoro",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "con Kenyans of billions of shillings while carrying the Bible. The men of the cloth always say that no one will carry anything to heaven. I do not know how they will go to heaven carrying those billions that they have stolen from people in the name of co-operatives. The Bill seeks to resolve such challenges because of the nature of management and transparency that has been introduced in the Bill. The governance structure with a clear operational framework will help in guarding the resources of members of the public. Finally, the involvement of the public in the Bill was very vital because the Committee and the Secretariat went to the villages to listen to the common mwananchi. We could see the burning desire the common man had for safe investments. They want to invest in trustworthy institutions. It has become very difficult to differentiate between genuine and fake investment institutions. What came out clearly from the public participation that was conducted is that Kenyans want to be sure that the Co-operatives Act has been clearly streamlined to ensure that their money is safe and secure. The Bill has been simplified for any person to understand. It was drafted in very basic language. Kenyans can understand the different tiers in terms of primary, secondary and tertiary co-operatives. The Bill incorporates all their demands, but with very basic terms of reference or language that is easily understandable. I appreciate the Members for supporting the Bill, which is very crucial for a sustainable and competitive co-operatives sector that is aligned with the national co-operatives policy. By passing this legislation, this House will support a modern co-operative sector that upholds co- operative principles, strengthens economic inclusion and fosters unity across Kenya’s counties."
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to reply."
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"content": "Thank you. We shall put the Question at a later date."
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"content": "(Putting of the Question deferred)"
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