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            "speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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            "content": "THAT, Clause 8 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (c)— “(ca) the requirement of subsection (1)(b) shall not apply to member appointed under subsection 7(e) and (f)”."
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            "speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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            "content": "The justification of this amendment is that we are seeking that there be a representation of farmers in the board under Clause 7(e) and 7(f). I have also indicated that the requirement under 8(1)(b)(ii) is only a certificate of secondary school education. For small-scale farmers, I am seeking that they should not be required to have a minimum of three years’ experience preferably in management of coffee. We will be picking those farmers directly. There is no need for management experience. That is why I seek that we exclude that category."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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                "legal_name": "Farah Maalim Mohamed",
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            "content": " You are deleting 8(1)(c). Is that what you are saying?"
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            "speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
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            "content": " I am not deleting. We are excluding that requirement. Others, except farmers in categories (e) and (f), can have the management skills. That will not apply to farmers appointed by farmers to represent farmers. There is no point in requiring them to have those management skills."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
            "speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
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                "legal_name": "Farah Maalim Mohamed",
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            "content": " Hon. Osoro."
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            "speaker_name": "South Mugirango, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Silvanus Osoro",
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            "content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, there are appointments that require a degree from a recognised university of Kenya, and I think that is from (a) to (g). If I am getting Hon. Gichimu very well, then I think he is suggesting that there are other appointments that require a certificate in secondary education. Looking at the small-"
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            "speaker_name": "South Mugirango, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Silvanus Osoro",
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            "content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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            "speaker_name": "South Mugirango, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Silvanus Osoro",
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            "content": "scale farmers or farmers back in the villages, you will agree with me that not all of them have such qualifications. That means they will have to appoint their sons or daughters who do not even have any knowledge in coffee. We agree with Hon. Gichimu that it be delinked from them, so that we just have a representative. The leader, who is at the top, is a degree holder. Therefore, you do not need to have a person with secondary school qualification because you already have a leader. In my view, it is important that we also consider the farmers in the villages."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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                "legal_name": "Farah Maalim Mohamed",
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            "content": " Yes, Hon. Oundo."
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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            "content": " I had an amendment which was informed by numerous researches that have indicated that one of the impediments to the advancement of agriculture is low level of educational qualification of the participants in the sector. However, I have been persuaded by Hon. Gichimu to drop my amendments on Clause 8, because that is where the rubber meets the road, and 2027 is not too far."
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