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"speaker_name": "Mombasa, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Zamzam Mohammed",
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"content": "Kwa hivyo, naona hii Bill iko very harsh kwa mwananchi, na ina contradictions nyingi. Naomba walioileta waipige msasa na warekebishe sehemu ambazo ziko na utata ndio wailete hapa tuijadili ikiwa sawa na kuipitisha."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": " Kwa hivyo, unaunga mkono ama hauungi?"
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"speaker_name": "Likoni, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Zamzam Mohammed",
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"content": " Kwa sasa, napinga hadi ipigwe msasa."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": " Let us have Hon. Gichimu Githinji speak on this."
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me start by saying that this Bill is squarely and properly before this House. If I may read, Article 209 (5) of the Constitution states: “(5) The taxation and other revenue-raising powers of a county shall not be exercised in a way that prejudices national economic policies, economic activities across the county boundaries, or the national mobility of goods, services, capital or labour.” It is rightly in this House because the economic policies, processes and procedures must be understood by all 47 county governments. This Act does not in any way dictate where the county governments will get taxes. It is just giving a guide and every county will follow the procedures prescribed in this Bill. Before, county governments did not submit tax proposals to the National Treasury and the CRA. This is a very important aspect. So, as county governments proceed to make tax proposals and raise revenue, the National Government, which is the custodian of national policies, Kenyans and residents of that county, will know where their taxes will be applied and how they will be collected. So, that uniformity is exercised across the country."
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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"content": "I beg to differ slightly with Hon. Oundo when he said that whatever is covered under this Bill is also covered under the County Licensing (Uniform Procedures) Act. This Act talks about how counties can uniformly license across the country. An entity can have businesses in different counties. For example, when I apply for a licence in Kirinyaga, that procedure should also apply in Kakamega, Vihiga and any other county. In this Bill, a county government is tasked to have its ways of raising taxes, which should not be levied by another county. This also depends on their sources of revenue. So, it is a bit different."
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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"content": "Going into the meat of the Bill. I support the idea that every tax and waiver must be legalised to avoid arbitrary decisions being made by the person in leadership on where and when to waive. So, this Bill requires that every waiver or taxation must be put into the legislation. This is the right way for all counties to go to avoid arbitrary decisions being made, depending on who is in power and leading a county government. However, Hon. Temporary Speaker, some areas require amendments in this Bill, like I would be proposing an amendment under Clause 10, whereby the term of the Committee has been indicated to be a period of two years or as may be determined by the Cabinet Secretary. That clause ought to be amended so that we can have a clear term for that Inter-Agency Transition Committee, which is also very important because before this law comes into force, some counties already have their revenue-raising measures and must be given time to transit into this Act. It cannot be left at the whims of the Cabinet Secretary to say because they may also say that the life of that agency might even be 10 years, and it might not serve any purpose. Another amendment I would also be seeking is that regulations cannot be made to cover the areas that this Act has not covered. Regulations can only be made to make it possible to implement the Act, but they cannot be made to cover the gaps that this Act has not addressed. We should amend the Act to ensure that we cover all the areas. However, we cannot give the Cabinet Secretary an opportunity to make a law that would be substantial, just like the Act. I"
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
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"content": "would seek to amend Clause 11 so that the Cabinet Secretary will only have powers to make regulations generally or specifically for implementing this Act. Hon. Temporary Speaker, so that I can also pave the way for other Members to make contributions, this is a fairly short Bill. I support and will be proposing amendments to the areas that I have indicated or any further that I feel will enrich this Bill for the benefit of Kenya and all the counties. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me that opportunity."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": " Very well. As a lawyer, you used to be very keen on debate. I thought somebody should speak on legislation in retrospect. But let us hear Hon. Bady Bady on this."
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