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"content": "Yes, Cabinet Secretary."
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"speaker_name": "Dr Andrew Mwihia Karanja",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I am informed that this is a very technical area and you must agree with me that we mostly rely on scientific evidence. It is true that this Report came from PCPB."
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"content": "Cabinet Secretary, are you an agricultural scientist?"
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"content": " Yes, agricultural economics, but not the technical side."
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"content": "I heard you saying you are testing sukumawiki in Nyandarua. You have been told by the Deputy Speaker that she has been dealing with this for the last four or five years. There is a resolution of this House that those harmful pesticides were banned in the countries that manufacture them, but they are being sold in our market to harm our people and destroy our economy. That is because when there is any trace of such material in our products, they cannot enter the European Union (EU), Japanese and the American markets, where they manufacture and send them to us. Can you, therefore, tell Parliament and the country what you want to do? If you are not ready, we will give you more time to go and bring a more comprehensive response."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The evidence that we have from the independent research and review of literature from Pest Control Product Board (PCPB), the agent that is tasked in this country, have not found any carcinogenic effect of the herbicides. This also applies to the roundup herbicide which has been singled out. There is no scientific evidence to back up the claim. That is the position."
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"speaker_name": "Moyale, UPIA",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Professor, what is your point of order?"
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Cabinet Secretary does not seem to have understood the question. He said that the laboratory is 95 per cent complete; meaning there is no laboratory that does such tests. He just needs to admit that we are not prepared, as a country, to test those pesticides. The PCPB might be there, but they are incapable of testing them. He is not ready to divulge such information. We have been asking the same question as the Committee on Implementation, but we have not gotten any answer because the Cabinet Secretary has been to the Floor to answer them. Let him go back and look for a comprehensive answer. On the issue of the lab that is 95 per cent complete in terms of construction, many things like the human capital are still required to make it resourceful; which they do not have. Why is he, therefore, economical with the truth?"
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"content": "Hon. Zamzam?"
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