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"speaker_name": "Buuri, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri",
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, the Cabinet Secretary spoke about carrying out some research somewhere in Nyahururu. But in areas where cancer is more prevalent, he has not said a word and, hence, a deficiency in his answers. That is because they are carrying out research in areas where there are no cases of harmful effect on humans and animals. My request, therefore, is that they can carry out more research in the deepest agricultural zones. That should be specifically in Buuri Constituency where there is a high level of miscarriages among women farm workers. We grow potatoes and cabbages, and almost all other export products. Some of those products are being returned. That is not an issue that should be ignored because laymen like us understand the problem, but the people who are supposed to be coming up with solutions are not coming up with them. The problem is with the Pest Control Products Board (PCPB). Something needs to be done. There is a human resource deficiency in that institution. They are not telling Kenyans the truth. If a lawyer can disseminate information from her own research, and a scientist at the PCPB cannot explain the same, then this country is in danger. We are in danger! My constituency has been chosen as a centre of focus by the National Aids Control Council (NACC) and the Ministry of Health. However, the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock Development is silent and yet, they have information on where to focus on to get the answers to our problems. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Hon. Gichimu."
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I also support the point that there is need for the Cabinet Secretary to bring all the evidence in terms of research, and for"
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "the Member who has asked the Question to also bring whatever evidence she may have, so that if there is any contradiction, this House, with your guidance, can establish the correct position, so that we can handle this issue. If those pesticides are causing cancer among our people, we can then know how to address the issue. However, we cannot come to a conclusion until that research is completed. The people of Gichugu Constituency, whom I represent, grow a lot of coffee. We use a lot of pesticides, which may lead to the cancer prevalence. There is a belief that those pesticides cause cancer. I do not want to come to a conclusion because I am not a scientist. Let that conclusion come from the scientists, so that we can handle the matter in the best way possible. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Yes, Hon. Owen. You have turned this Question into a debate."
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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I know that Hon. Gladys Boss has been talking about this issue for many years. I have been listening to her in the House, but we do not seem to be making any headway. I also know that this House can use experts, including our local universities and professors. The Cabinet Secretary is saying one thing, Hon. Gladys Boss is saying another thing and other people will say something else. The scientific corpus may have different lineages and leanings, and even the industry players will influence the debate. Why do we, as Parliament, not ask scientists to come up with a small conference to inform us, so that we can make a decision? The Cabinet Secretary will rely on scientists in his office. I do not think he is a scientist in that area. He will rely on scientists in his office, who will give him information that he may not personally agree with. Hon. Speaker, let us to stop belabouring that point and look for a solution by asking professors to come up with a paper, so that we can listen to them and make a decision. We should not just make a decision from the perspective of what the Cabinet Secretary is saying. Parliament should make a decision and instruct the Ministry on what to do. Otherwise, we will keep on going back and forth."
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"content": "Hon. Gladys Boss?"
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"speaker_name": "Uasin Gishu County, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to make some things clear. First, in the United States of America (USA), the Superior Court of California awarded farmers US$250 million apiece against Monsanto, which was manufacturing Roundup. It was after that court case that Roundup was completely banned. Monsanto is a huge company. They had armies of scientists, but they were not able to win the case. That case was applied to the entire Europe, North America and the USA. How foolish are we, as Kenyans, to think that we can get better scientists than those who have done it in those countries? Furthermore, it was said that the Monsanto Case had the highest number of scientists who were evaluating the claims in the history of a damages case in the USA. I sent details of that court case to your Office. You have that court case. Today, I am also mobilising. I will come up with a class action lawsuit against the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock Development and the PCPB because it is their responsibility to protect us. If those products are safe, why are they not being sold in Europe and America? If they are safe, why is it that when our farmers use those pesticide products and send their products abroad, the entire container is returned once the products are tested? I have visited six companies in Nakuru County and two in Nairobi County, which produce pyrethrum-based pesticides. When I asked them who buys from them because I know the ordinary farmer do not, they said that any farmer who exports products normally buys from them. Farmers will tell"
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