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"content": "Most of our public schools now in the rural set-up were called harambee secondary schools. Some of our national schools were built by the community through harambee. Our parents sold cows, goats, sheep and all types of things to ensure that these schools were built."
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"content": "I hope with the debate that is going on, the Senate Majority Leader will rethink this Bill. We cannot do as a country without harambee. Most of our churches also were built through harambees. Some were done by missionaries who came to the country early, maybe 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. These missionaries got their resources because of harambees in their own country. They raised maybe from charity organisations and from those who were philanthropic enough to contribute. Then the resources came to Kenya, came to Africa. Our churches and mosques were built as a result of harambee."
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"content": "My colleagues have talked about school fees. Most people went to school because of harambee. I remember I almost missed going to Form 1 because my parents did not have anything. However, because of the community, they sat and said, this is a young man, a young boy who did very well. He was top of his school and then they decided to contribute. At that time our school fees were Kshs1,540. It was not easy to get Kshs1,500 in 1982. If it was not easy to get Kshs1,500, how about now, when those joining Form 1, are expected to pay Kshs60,000?"
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"content": "So, what I am saying as a leader and as a legislator, we will not agree to legislate harambees in our country. If we do, many people will be locked out of schools and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "colleges. NG- CDF has been there since 2004, but it has not been able to sponsor all the students across the country."
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"content": "That is why one of the Senators the other day said that can we collapse all these bursaries from NG-CDF, bursary from county government, bursary by Women Representatives and from the Ministry, we put in one kitty, so that we have free education from Early Childhood Development Education (ECDE) up to university."
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"content": "The only way we can agree to regulate fundraising is if we say completely now from nursery to university, education is completely free. We will know those from less fortunate, less privileged families can have an education, which is an equalizer. On the state of health in the country, you know in the village, most of our dispensaries, most of our health centres have no medicine. Without medicine, most of our people who get sick will go to private hospitals in the counties. When they go even to the public, they are expected to pay. When they are expected to pay and they do not have anything, many of them have lost even their pieces of land because of selling it to take their kinsmen and women to hospital. Therefore, because of medical expenses and education, we will support harambees. Clause 14 of the Bill says- “A person shall not conduct a public fundraising appeal unless the person has applied for and obtained a permit in accordance with the proficiency of this law.”"
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"content": "You can imagine that if you have a sick person, the person requires to be discharged from the hospital, you need to apply within 14 days. Where will you get this County Executive Committee Member (CECM)? If we were not able to get the District County Commissioner (DCC) who was just within the District, but now this is a CECM in charge of a county, or a Cabinet Secretary in charge of the country? It is not possible."
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"content": "One of the clauses here say that if you intend to seek public office three years before elections, you should not conduct any fundraising. How would you know? You know, seeking a seat is sometimes a calling. The community can approach you to vie for a seat six months before the election. What will happen if you have conducted a fundraiser before? It means you will be locked out. The community will lose a leader who would have come to assist the people. Madam Temporary Speaker, check the fines given. If you conduct a fundraiser without a valid permit, then you can pay a fine of Kshs5 million. How will you pay a fine of Kshs5 million when you are looking for resources to release somebody from the hospital or to take a child to the hospital or school? When the time comes to vote, we will reject this Bill so that we can ensure that we continue supporting our people. This is a social call; a social rally to ensure that our people are assisted. With those few remarks, I beg to oppose."
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"content": " Thank you, Sen. Kisang. I do not see any other Senator interested in contributing to this Bill and so, I will call upon the Mover to reply."
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