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"content": " Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may now proceed to respond."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Question is in three parts. The answer that I am providing this morning is that in regard to questions 5.1 and 5.2, I The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "request more time to provide a comprehensive response because I cannot find some of my records. I am not able to bring the information. I need more time. I have already assigned the relevant department to comb through all our records to see whether we can get the necessary files. Then we have (iii), which I wish to respond to as follows: I have given a long statement there. Certificate title number IRLR209-1712, original numbers 1042 and 1041, is a portion of the premises comprised in a grant dated 21st May 1929. It is located in the City of Nairobi, measuring approximately 0.34436 of an acre, for a term expiring on 1st August 2024, and for an annual rent of the amount stated there. We have annexed a copy of the title. The land was initially registered in favour of John Herbert Turner on 1st March, 1929. The registered proprietor charged the property and a charge instrument was registered on 2nd December, 1930. Later, on 11th May, 1931, the property was discharged and a transfer was registered in the name of Fadi Nadis. Annexure 4 speaks to that transfer. On 27th January, 1933, this property was transferred to Kenya Loan and Discount Limited for a consideration amount of Kshs10,000. Thereafter, on 23rd October, 1942, a transfer vide public auction of the said property to Allan Rakea and Mohammed Sharif, both sons of Nizam Din of Nairobi, and Firoz Din and Azin Din, both sons of Haji Fatin Din of Nairobi, as tenants in common and equal shares. Annexure 5 has the transfer by public auction as evidence. On 26th November, 1996, a decree vide Civil Case No.3279 of 1994 originating summons was registered against the title. On 17th November, 1997, a vesting order or transfer was registered, transferring this land to Shauri Moyo Furniture Makers Co- operative Society, freed from all encumbrances. Annexure 6 speaks to that court order. Subsequently, a provisional certificate of title was issued in favour of the Shauri Moyo Furniture Makers Co-operative Society Limited in 14th May, 1988. On 22nd May, 2002, another vesting order was issued, transferring the land to several persons; that is, Francis Ngaruiya Njoroge, Stephen Njoroge Irungu, Josphat Mutuku Musembi, Stephen Mwangi Kimani and Stephen Kamau Muchiri as trustees for themselves and the other plaintiffs as tenants in common and equal shares. We have also attached Annexure 7 being the court order. Several other court orders were registered emanating from the same suit up to and including 9th March, 2015, restraining order and prohibiting all dealings. That order is dated 23rd October, 2019. This was registered against the said title. On 25th May, 2022, for a consideration of Kshs130 million, this land was transferred to Miraj Supply and Contractors Limited. Since then, this property has not changed hands. My record shows that it is currently in the name of Miraj. Unless there is any other question, I think that is fully answered."
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"content": " Sen. Sifuna, proceed."
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"content": "Hon. Cabinet Secretary, with regards to the first two parts of my question, you have indicated that you need more time. Perhaps, you could indicate how much time you need for us to get these responses. You have also confirmed to me that the co-operative society sold this land to a private entity. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a follow-up question. The last time that the Cabinet Secretary was before this House on 27th March, 2024, we had a conversation here and I was happy with what she said regarding revocation of the title of the land on which Tom Mboya Social Hall sits. I took the initiative to write to the Cabinet Secretary. In fact, when she was here, she promised us that she would revoke the title that had been given to a private developer and return that land to the Nairobi City County on behalf of the people of Nairobi. On 8th April, 2024, I wrote to the Cabinet Secretary responsible for Land because even after her pronouncements, we could see that there was still development going on at the property. She wrote back to me on 13th May, 2024, saying that she is following up. In fact, she said that the position of the Ministry was that that title was going to be revoked. Mr. Speaker, Sir, now that she is here and she had made that promise before this House, I would like her to give the House an update on the process of revocation of the title that had been issued to a private developer for the land on which Tom Mboya Social Hall sits. I thank you."
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"content": " Hon. Cabinet Secretary proceed."
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"content": " The first supplementary question was how much time I need. Sometimes it is quite difficult because you cannot tell how long it will take when a file is removed from its usual place. Possibly we can work with another 30 days. Hon. Senator, if you have some details in respect of those parcels, kindly share with me for purposes of reconstruction. If I cannot get my file, then I should get useful assistance through any document that speaks to the title for purposes of reconstruction. In 30 days, we will be working hard to get the file. The last one is on Tom Mboya Social Hall. After my statement in this plenary, my office started working on the revocation process. It is a process that requires at least about 90 days to four months because you have to write to the holders of that title and call for it. We have already done that, but before we could proceed with gazettement of the need to revoke, we were served with the proceedings of the High Court. I believe, hon. Senator, you are aware. There is an order for status quo . I am still looking at ways of fulfilling what I stated on this Floor, but there is a court order. These people have gone to court and are not relenting. The position of the Ministry is that whichever way, this property is not transferable because it is secured and preserved space for the town hall. We have already filed some statements to the court to respond to that effect. In my view, the property is still secure. The court order was given on 24th July, 2024. The case number in the Environment and Land Court is E053 of 2024, filed by Ngami Properties Limited against the Cabinet Secretary. The order was issued on that day. Maybe this is what is relevant; that there shall be a status quo . Perhaps, we can forward this. It is part of the annexures. If it is not, I will forward a copy of this order for purposes of record."
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"content": " So, you will have 30 days to get the response on the first limb of the question. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Sen. Miraj, do you have any supplementary question? Where is she? Sen. Mungatana, do you have any supplementary question?"
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