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"speaker_name": "Hon. Alice Wahome",
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, the first question is from hon. Mungatana on how far we are in regard to digitization. It is true the digitization process started in Nairobi Registry. How then does that not help the question of missing files? Before you digitize, you need the files to get the information and load it into the information management system. If you do not have the hardcopy file, then you have no information to put. So, there are still a few parcels where the files are not available. If the hard copy material of, for instance, the deed and correspondence files are not there, then you cannot have that in the system. That is the response to why I am still speaking to a missing file. Even when we have information in the system, we still reverify, since we still have the hard copies, just to avoid any mistake. However, in this particular case, we do not have any information in the information management system; that is, A rdhisasa . We also cannot get the hardcopies, but we will find them. Sometimes they disappear completely. That is why I requested support from the owner of that question, Sen. Sifuna, so that if we cannot get them, we request for information and documentation from the people interested or the owners of the property, so that we can put it in the system and gazette the reconstruction and loss of the titles. On question of general digitization, it is work in progress. Nairobi City County is at 98 per cent. We are also working in Murang’a County. We have gone live in Murang’a. We will be launching in Isiolo County soon. It is a matter of time availability. Then Mombasa County, we are at the tail end, perhaps at 80 per cent. Obviously, we have a long way to go, because you know the number of registries is more than 80. The operational ones are about 73. My Land Registrar is not here today. He had another commitment. However, I did tell this House during the vetting that I need about Kshs34 billion to digitize the entire country. The information system now is approximately in five counties in terms of digitization. The hardest stations are Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu, Nakuru, Kiambu and Murang’a counties. Those are the areas where land titling has already happened. So, we still need a lot of time and money. I had said if I got the budget within four years, we can finish. So that is where we are. There was a question on Katelembu from my good friend, hon. Senator Kavindu."
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"content": " Hon. Cabinet Secretary, if you can, answer to the question because it is not a supplementary question."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would advise the Hon. Senator that this is a matter that we could write to the Cabinet Secretary in charge of the Ministry of Co-operatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSME), because they have regulatory instruments that can direct AGMs to be carried out. So, people should not be held at ransom. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Many land-buying companies like other public companies take long to hold AGMs and they do funny businesses there. Even when they call an AGM, they buy out some members and the AGM does not go well. However, under the supervision of the national Government through the Ministry of Co-operatives and Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises, that can be done in a proper way. So, we can have a conversation, but you could go direct to the relevant Cabinet Secretary. They will be able to help that cooperative society. If you need my support, I am available."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Cabinet Secretary. We will now move to Question No.071 by the Senator for Kirinyaga County, Sen. (Dr.) James Murango. You may proceed to ask your question, Senator."
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"content": "Question No."
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"content": "RESETTLEMENT OF SQUATTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY"
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Land, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development the following Question. (a) Could the Cabinet Secretary state the number of persons classified as landless, commonly referred to as squatters in Kirinyaga Central Constituency, Kirinyaga County? (b) What measures has the Ministry put in place to ensure that all squatters across the county, in particular those in colonial settlement villages along Mount Kenya Forest in Kirinyaga County, are resettled? (c) Could the Cabinet Secretary confirm when these squatters will be settled, including when they shall be issued with title deeds?"
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"content": " Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may now proceed to respond. Thank you."
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