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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, there is one clarification, I thought I could get from her. Tharaka Nithi people have been accused of chasing adjudicators from the adjudication section. That is what she alluded to before the Floor of the House. So, I wish I could get some clarification on whether that statement is true or not. I am not aware of any officer who was chased away from those adjudication zones by people from my constituents and county."
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"content": " Hon. Senator, that information is on the ground. This happened in 2014. They declined and said they will not participate. Adjudication requires a community committee that you form for adjudication. Those are the community people. Then my people will come and facilitate the meetings. They said they do not want that work to be completed until the dispute is resolved. That is how we went now to report issues. I think we have agreed there is a dispute. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Senator knows that the dispute exists. If there is a dispute between the two communities, how else will the Ministry work? We will deal with the dispute first. I am not imputing bad faith or accusing anyone. They told me that when I was there lastly. They told me that they must first resolve the Tharaka and Meru boundary dispute before we can deal with that. They saw me giving out titles and they did not know whether I came to give the titles of the remaining adjudication sections. However, they were clear that this issue The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "must be resolved first. So, if the Senator asks for an OB, it will be like we are doing a case here and yet I am responding and giving facts from my records. They may have been beaten or chased, but the Ministry was told to stop the work. This is not something you can force. There has to be dialogue and acceptance."
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"content": " Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Sen. Esther, please be fast to ask your question."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My question is in regard to the land title deeds tussle in the larger Gusii region. Most families have been in the corridors of justice because of succession issues, which at times are occasioned by rogue Ministry officials who forge some of these documents. What plan does the Ministry have to address this issue? We have failed to sensitize because families do not know how to pursue succession to completion. As a result, we end up with people taking advantage of the whole process. In some cases, rogue Ministry officials are implicated and the matters end up in court for many years, where people die even without becoming beneficiaries."
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"content": " Sen. Chute, what is your question?"
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I thank the Cabinet Secretary for being here today. I know she is tired, but she can still go on until one o’clock."
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"content": "My question is specific. We have issues with the Buxton Estate. In our Committee on Lands, Environmental and Natural Resources, we decided to ask the Ministry to accommodate 184 former tenants. One time, the Cabinet Secretary was here, I had a session with her and she agreed to meet those tenants. I want to know how far she has gone with the issue of those tenants of Buxton Estate with regard to the Housing Levy funds to resolve this matter soon."
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