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"content": "would have wished for more resources, but we have to live with certain realities. In fact, on that particular point, I would like to say that the Constitution did us in with that particular regard. If you read Article 217 of our Constitution on Division of Revenue, once every five years, and I think we shall be undertaking this exercise next year, which is an interesting experience and I would like Sen. Sifuna to fully participate when the time comes because it is one of the key eye openers for you as a senator when you participate in this exercise, we come up with the basis upon which resources are shared amongst counties. Since the Constitution understood and knew that it is a Senate of the Republic of Kenya that is a primary defender of devolution, they gave us enormous power with regards to deciding this basis. Properly guided and guarded, we on this provision that once we have passed the resolution, it is the only Clause or the only report that once it leaves this House, if the National Assembly wants to overturn it, they need to raise two- thirds. Therefore, for the three or four occasions that we have had the occasion to pass the revenue formula, the National Assembly, though they disagree with us, have never had occasion to question us because the Constitution appreciated that as a Senate, that is our forte and it is upon us to determine. Once we have agreed on the basis upon which counties share these resources, the National Assembly takes a nod and if they disagree with us, they have to raise two thirds of the House. They put us on the same pedestal like a constitutional requirement or like the impeachment of a president or a deputy or the overturning of a presidential memorandum. I appreciate that. However, when you move to Article 218, that is where I complain and is the basis of my complaint. I wish that on this matter of division of revenue and the determination of resources between the Senate and National Assembly, we had retained similar powers as such that once we consider division of revenue, because we are reasonable people, it is not that we are going to sit and say give Kshs800 billion to counties, yet we are aware of our financial position. We would have been moderate in our consideration. I wish we had similar powers as what has been provided in Article 217, as such that upon the determination by the Senate of how much is due to the counties, then National Assembly will need two-thirds to overturn it. However, here we are. Article 218 expects that Parliament shall make the decision. Parliament means both Houses. Therefore, as much as many of our colleagues, because I have followed the conversation with comments being made by some of our colleagues on our social media platforms saying, “Colleagues, how could you agree to this or the other?” It is not upon them alone to agree. It is the duty of Parliament. Both Houses must come to a conclusion. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, sometimes it is not courage to bang yourself on the wall. It is not an act of courage because you are hurting yourself. Two weeks ago, I pointed out to this House that I was beginning to receive Short Message Services (SMSs) from governors that know me. Their question was, Senate Majority Leader, are you likely to conclude on the Division of Revenue before you proceed on recess? When you ask them why they reply that they want to do a supplementary budget so that they get a rough idea. Imagine that many of our counties are about to break for The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "recess. They have no basis upon which to do their supplementary budget because we have not done the County Allocation of Revenue Act (CARA) for them to know what is their share of the national cake. It would have been completely unfair of us and we would have asked Sen. Sifuna because he knows how to stick to his guns. In fact, he loves opposing more than supporting things. We would have asked them to go there and insist on the Kshs400 billion and not listen to anything else, but are we helping our counties? It would have been our wish to raise those figures if it was possible, but remember the constitutional edict is that this is a determination of Parliament and not the Senate alone. Therefore, both Houses must agree. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I appreciate that because of that provision of the Constitution, our colleagues have done well with Kshs387.425 billion, together with Kshs8 billion from the Equalization Fund. Before we break for recess, we will also pass conditional allocations. By so doing, we will still achieve all or about the intention that we set out when we began this year’s Division of Revenue Bill. I take great comfort in the fact that we, as a House, put our best case forward. However, we are also intelligent enough to listen to what our colleagues from the National Assembly are telling us and the realities that we have to live with. The truth of the matter is that our economy is not doing very well. We are under a debt distress situation; where 70 per cent of the resources we are collecting do not leave Harambee Avenue. They are collected by the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) and the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) pays them out, either to foreign institutions or the local institutions that we owe. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we must learn to live with the little that we have. I am impressed because when the President gave the State of the Nation Address last week on Thursday, he gave another assurance. However, I do not know why Sen. Sifuna says the President sometimes draws wrong advice from this House. He needs to read the Budget Policy Statement (BPS) report of the Committee on Finance and Budget of this financial year. One of the things we had challenged the Executive to do is that apart from raising taxes, they need to digitize revenue collections at KRA so that they realize more revenue. I am certain that if we were to seal revenue leakages that exist in this country, perhaps we would raise far more than what we are trying to raise with this year’s Finance Bill. That was the finding of this Senate. I am impressed that the President gave a commitment to both Houses of Parliament when he addressed us last week. He said we are in the final stages of digitizing our revenue collection mechanisms to reduce on wastage so that we have more money to share with our counties and development can be realized. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I celebrate and appreciate the good work that our Committee has done. I see they are proposing for us Kshs387.425 billion. Let us make this decision so that as we walk to our villages over the Christmas holiday, we can look at our governors straight in the face and ask them to give a good account of the resources that we have devolved to the devolved units. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Otherwise, as it is today, we are shy on taking on county government officials and governors because they may quickly speak after us and say that we have not told them how much they are likely to receive this financial year. I request that if possible colleagues speak to this mediated version of the Bill today so that we conclude on it and embark on CARA. This is so that by next week, we can be done with this business and retreat to the villages with our chests held high, knowing that we have done our national duty and citizens can expect services from us. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will not speak long on the many things we had raised, remember this is a mediated version. We had said what is expected of our county governments. I wish to end my contribution at this point and celebrate the colleagues that took time in the mediation committee. I urge colleagues that we should quickly dispense of with this matter, appreciate the work our colleagues have put in and move on to other things. I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Naibu wa Spika, kwa kunipa hii nafasi. Kwanza, ninashukuru kamati iliyokaa chini na kuhakikisha wamefanikisha maelewano kati ya fedha ambazo zinaenda kaunti zetu. Kazi inayofanywa na Maseneta ni muhimu sana. Shida ambazo wanapitia kuhakikisha kwamba pesa zinazoenda kwa gatuzi zetu zimefika ni kazi ngumu, ni kazi msalagambo. Ni kazi inayohitaji Maseneta kumakinika na kutetea gatuzi zetu. Bw. Naibu Spika, jambo la ajabu ni kwamba hizi fedha zinapofika katika kaunti zetu, magavana wengi wanajifanya kama miungu na hawawezi kulizwa maswali. Ni kama Seneti tumekuwa tingatinga; kazi yetu ni kuchukuliwa kubomoa milima na tunapomaliza kutengeneza barabara na fedha kufika kaunti zetu, inasemekana tutaharibu barabara na lazima tuwekelewe kwa lori. Bw. Naibu Spika, ile pesa tumeng’ang’na leo na kuhakikisha kwamba imepita, ningeuliza wale magavana ambao wanatumia hizi pesa, wazitumie kwa njia ya haki, kuhakikisha ya kwamba kuna maendeleo mashinani. Nitasema hivi, Mswahili husema ukitaka kujua chochoro, kula nauli. Sisi kama Seneti, tumemakinika na tutahakikisha kwamba kuanzia mwaka ujao, tutafatilia fedha zetu zinaenda wapi. Ukiangalia mahospitali katika gatuzi zetu, utapata watu wetu bado wanahangaika kwa sababu ya ukosefu wa madawa na huduma muhimu. Utasikia gavana akisema anang’ang’ana na barabara na elimu. Hiyo ni sawa, lakini ni vizuri wajue afya ya wananchi wetu ni muhimu zaidi. Kwa sababu, aliyekufa, hawezi tumia barabara au basari. Bw. Naibu Spika, Seneta Cherarkey anaongea kwa sauti ya juu na ananipotezea mtiririko wa mawazo ninapoongea."
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"content": " Order, Sen. Cherarkey! The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika. Mimi kama Mwenyekiti wa Kamati ya Ukulima, Uvuvi na Uchumi Samawati ni vizuri niseme ya kwamba, miradi mingi ambayo inafanyika katika gatuzi zetu ni kama magavana wengi wamesahau kuna ukulima na uvuvi. Katika nyanja ya uchumi samawati, shida iliyoko ni kwamba, ukiangalia zile bajeti zinatengenezwa na kupelekwa bunge zetu za kaunti, huwezi pata hata moja imewekwa pesa za kutosha kwenda kwa uchumi samawati. Tumetembea sehemu mbalimbali kule uvuvi unafanyika na cha kushangaza ni kwamba, wavuvi bado wanahangaika na bado kuna fedha zinafaa ziende kusaidia wale wavuvi. Bw. Naibu Spika, mkulima ni mtu wa maana na nitaregea kusema kwamba kama kuna mtu anahitajika katika maisha ya kila siku ni mkulima. Tunahitaji mkulima asubuhi wakati tunatafuta staftai, chakula cha mchana na hata jioni, mara nne kwa siku. Lakini wakulima wengi wamewachiliwa na tunajua ya kwamba, kilimo imegatuliwa. Kwa miaka yangu ya awali, nimekuwa mwakilishi wadi katika gatuzi la Kirinyaga na nikawa Kiongozi wa Wengi katika Bunge la Kirinyaga. Gavana wangu ni yule aliopo leo na utapata kwamba zile fedha zimewekwa hususan kwenda kwa wadi kwa sababu wadi ni sehemu ndogo sana ya ugatuzi. Bw. Naibu Spika, wabunge kutoka kaunti ya Kirinyaga wanang’ang’ania miradi ambayo wamepeana kupitia kwa magavana kuweza kutekelezwa. Wabunge wanakuwa maadui wa gavana. Njia tunayoweza tumia kuhakikisha kwamba fedha mbazo zinafikia magavana zimefika kwenye kona zote za magatuzi yote 47 ni kuhakikisha kwamba miradi ambayo imepeanwa na waakilishi wadi wote inatekelezwa katika wadi ambazo wanasimamia. Uongozi si mapenzi. Sio lazima gavana awe anasikizana na mwakilishi wadi ama Seneta. Katika siasa hata kama hampendani, ni lazima huduma ifikie mwananchi. Kukosana katika kazi sio neno kwa sababu mwishowe tunafaa kufanya kazi. Jana Kamati ya Uwekezaji wa Umma na Hazina Maalum za Kaunti ilikuwa na kikao na gavana wa kaunti ya Kirinyaga. Ajenda ya mkutano ilikuwa maswali kuhusu iliyokuwa kampuni ya Kirinyaga Water and Sanitation Company (KIRIWASCO) ambayo ilikuwa inahusika na maji. Hadi hivi sasa, fedha ambazo zinakusanywa na KIRIWASCO hazijapitishwa vilivyo katika bunge la kaunti ili iweze kugawiwa majukumu kulingana na sheria ambayo inahusika na ununuzi wa bidhaa. Bado kuna mashimo mengi ambayo pesa zinazookotwa katika kaunti zinapotelea. Kwa hivyo, magavana hawafai kulia kila siku kwani pesa haitoshi. Tunataka kuona pesa inayokusanywa mashinani ikikusanywa kwa njia inayofaa, kwa uaminifu na kufikia malengo ambayo inafaa. Jambo la mwisho ni kuhusu eneo la Mwea ambalo ni eneo kubwa linalokuzwa mpunga katika eneo la Kirinyaga. Wakulima wengi wanahangaika. Kwa sababu, ingawa kuna mbolea ya ruzuku, pembejeo ambayo imefikishwa na kufanya wakulima waongeze mazao bado kuna tatizo kubwa kwa miundo msingi ya kutoa mazao yao kutoka mashambani kufikishwa kwa maghala. Tunazalisha mazao mengi, lakini wakulima wanapoteza mazao mengi shambani. Gharama ya kutoa gunia moja ya mpunga kutoka mashambani kupeleka katika maghala ya National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB) na vyama vya ushirika katika eneo la The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mwea. Hii inagharimu wakulima shilingi 1,200 katika kila gunia. Kama mkulima atapoteza shilingi 1,200 kwa sababu ya miundo msingi ambayo inafaa itengenezwe na gatuzi ya Kirinyaga, inamaanisha kuwa ile faida yote inapatikana kwa sababu ya kupata mbolea ya ruzuku na pembejeo za bei ya rahisi inapotea. Ningependa kumwambia gavana wangu kuwa mghala muue na haki yake umpe. Tuhakikishe kwamba huduma za barabara na miundo msingi imeboreshwa ili wakulima waweze kufaidika. Sio haya tu ambayo nilikuwa nataka kusema siku ya leo. Najua kwamba kamati nyingi zimekuwa na matatizo kubwa wakati tunawaita magavana hapa kuja kujibu maswali. Mswahili husema Mrina haogopi nyuki. Kama unataka asali lazima utafuata mzinga na kuzoa asali uwe unaumwa na nyuki ama huumwi na nyuki. Unapoomba kiti cha gavana, lazima uwe tayari kukaa chini na wale ambao wanaangalia kama kazi inafanyika katika gatuzi. Lazima uwe tayari kukaa chini na kujibu maswali kwa wale waakilishi wadi ambao wamechaguliwa. Lazima kuwe na heshima kuhakikisha kwamba kila jambo ambalo unafanya, unawajibika. Nitakuwa kalili wa akili kama sitasema kuwa kumekuwa na madharau si haba kutoka kwa magavana, waakilishi wadi na Maseneta ambao walichaguliwa. Itafika siku ambayo tutakuwa na kikao. Kazi yetu sio kubeba mzigo mkubwa na wakati tunawauliza maswali wanatuambia mzigo uko kichwani. Lazima waajibike kwa kujibu maswali na kufanya kazi ambayo wamepewa kufanya na isiwe kazi yao ni kutupatia kazi ya kuwatafutia pesa lakini hawataki kujibu maswali. Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika."
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"content": " Sen. Ogola, proceed."
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