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"content": "country. However, in between, you may find there is a contract for bush clearing or doing road earthworks and the contractor still brings people to do the bush clearing by subcontracting other companies from his country. That will be a thing of the past with the enactment of this Bill. If there will be work to be subcontracted at certain levels, it will not be subcontracted to people who are not local entrepreneurs. That is the only way to ensure that there is transfer of skills. The Bill also speaks to transfer of skills and technology. That will ensure that if there are specialised jobs… We have just come from the era of Adani. If Adani, for instance, has specialisation in construction, running and management of airports, we need to have local entrepreneurs protected by law. This is to ensure that if it is the construction of aprons, there is transfer of technology and skills in the construction so that years after our generation, our children will not go out to look for another Adani or other foreigners to come and build their airport. They will have skills."
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"content": "The tragedy that befell this country is the construction of the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR). I remember, Hon. Temporary Speaker, because I was here as a Member of the Public Investments Committee. Part of the things that we insisted on to be done in the reports that we tabled before this House was to ensure that subcontracts were being given to local entrepreneurs but because there was no law — it was just a recommendation of a parliamentary committee — it was never done. Today, if we want to extend the railway from where it ends, some sections call it railway to nowhere, in a bush somewhere near Naivasha… If we are to extend that railway today, as the intent is to Malaba, we have no local contractors with the expertise and the technology in the construction of rail. Ten years ago, if we had insisted, this law would be there. If we had also insisted that local entrepreneurs be subcontracted, we would be having people today with the technology and the skills in the construction of rail and local contractors would have benefited. I hope that by the time we get a new Public Private Partnership (PPP) to construct the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA), this law will be in place. By the time we are building a new SGR, signing a contract to transmit power, this law will be in place and whichever other partners come in with skills, there is a process through which we can transfer skills, transfer knowledge, empower our local contractors and entrepreneurs."
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"content": "Therefore, I support this Bill. I do not want to say much so as to allow others the opportunity to speak because the Mover spoke in great detail. I want to thank the Committee for having considered this Bill and seen the need to have a Bill that protects our local entrepreneurs. It ensures that we are not giving all Government contracts and tenders to outsiders, but we are also encouraging our own people and our entrepreneurs and industry to grow by giving them jobs in Government. The greatest spender of resources is Government. For enterprises and industries to grow in this country, it must be grown by Government in spending. If we are to manage our foreign exchange reserves and foreign exchange rate, we have to ensure that we stop what has been going on, where some contracts are given to foreigners and the people financing them insist on paying them outside this country and we end up expatriating a lot of our money."
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"content": "We need to have laws that make sure that many of these contracts are done by locals because that money will stay in this country. They will employ our local people. Look at the expressway that was built, even handsmen came from foreign countries; work that could be done by Kenyans. If we had transferred the necessary skills and technology to build expressways, like the ones Kenyans refer to as \" barabara ya ghorofa, \" and empowered our local contractors with this expertise, they would be able to employ more local people. All the money they make would be left in this country to grow our economy. I thank the Chair and the Committee on Finance and National Planning for bringing this Bill. I beg to second."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Hon. Esther Passaris, are you still interested to contribute because you are at the top of the requests list?"
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute. I wanted to speak to the Public Finance Management (Amendment) Bill which has been concluded. I commend the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. If we want to deal with corruption, it is important to streamline how we procure. This means we need the right legislation in place. With the kind of corruption we have and the existing pending bills, it is obvious that there is a problem and gap in the law."
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"content": "I commend both Leader of the Majority Party and the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning for looking at a holistic view on how the Government manages its expenses. It is really sad to note that today we cannot tell, from one government to the next one, how much we owe Kenyans out there. It is such a shame that pending bills continue to grow. Kenyans are languishing in poverty. They borrow money but they are unable to sustain their businesses because we are not paying them in due time. When I look at both of them in totality, they are tied because it starts with procurement and then it goes to payments. If all procurements, supplies and invoices will be captured in real time, then this hanky-panky that happens in all our government offices— where you have to cough something before you are paid— will come to an end. The systems will stop a payment for somebody today who has induced so that he gets paid, and ensure that the one who is justified is paid."
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"content": "This will also be crucial for us to know our exposure, in terms of our domestic debt. We know our foreign debt, but our local debt is in millions. Once these Bills are passed and streamlined, I believe we will have prudent procurement processes. I know that they will be fought. I really pray that if they will be fought, the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning which normally does its work thoroughly, will defend them. We need systems that work. We need to make sure that procurement protects the local investor. We need to make sure that persons with disability are protected. We have said that 30 per cent of procurement should go to women. We need to make sure that we have a holistic way of looking at all the processes so that everyone in the procurement is covered. We do not want anyone exploiting persons with disability, the youth and women. We want everyone to have their fair quota."
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