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"content": "My friend, Hon. Wakili, wants to contribute. I just want to support my brother, Hon. Oundo for now, reasoning like a Kenyan. Land issues in Kenya are more of community than administrative. For all the land issues that are pending in courts, you will agree with me that if the locals were given an opportunity to address those issues, the courts would have easier work. The Environment and Land Court Climate Justice Conference is currently ongoing in Eldoret City. What is coming out clearly is the issue of land management. The discussion by the delegates is that if there was adequate community participation, those matters would be addressed on time to allow land use for the benefit and development of our country. I support the Bill. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Lastly, Senior Counsel Wakili Muriu."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity."
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"content": " Try to contribute in under two minutes because of time."
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"content": " Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will be very brief. I support this Bill by Hon. Oundo. I just want to say two things. The purpose of legislation is to create certainty in our laws whereby people can plan ahead, especially on matters of land. Land is the most emotive issue in our country and the only asset that most Kenyans think about. It encompasses all the other assets that belong to Kenyans. Therefore, the moment we create certainty in terms of land control, we will build wealth for our people. Secondly, absolute power corrupts absolutely. There are instances whereby Deputy County Commissioners convene their own committees to control land and make decisions. They hold special sittings to deprive people of their land. Finally, this law will work best in a situation where land control and land use laws are also aligned. For example, previous coffee-growing areas have now turned into residential areas. As a result, land regulation in that area now becomes commercial because it is no longer agricultural land, but residential. Therefore, there is a bit of conflict in terms of the land use. As we address this Bill, I hope that we will harmonise the agricultural land use laws and the commercial laws. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " What is out of order, Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo?"
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is not really a point of order. I rose up earlier and supported the Bill. I hope we will have an opportunity to amend the Bill because there is a part in the Bill…"
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