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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I have a Supplementary question to the CS. Whereas counties owe KEMSA, the national Government, through the Ministry of Health, also owes KEMSA. If you have been given Kshs25 billion in the Budget, why are you not paying your bills to KEMSA and you are the Ministry responsible to KEMSA? You cannot be shooting yourself on the foot, saying that counties are not paying while the Ministry is also not paying. What are you doing as a Ministry to also pay your obligation? Finally, Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir---"
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"content": " One question, please."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as the Chairperson of the Committee on Health, please, allow me one more second."
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"content": " No, you have all the time with the Ministry of Health."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, they do not honour our summons. This Ministry has a lot of contempt for the Senate Standing Committee on Health. That is it. However, it is okay if that one question is sufficient."
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"content": " You have uttered a very sensitive matter when the CS is here. What did you say? What is it that you would like this House to help you with? You are the one that I am tasking to follow up these KEMSA issues with, then you are still---"
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"content": "Yes, but we are also telling you as it is. Sorry, Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir, allow me to say this: Health is about 90 per cent devolved, however, the involvement of the Ministry in the Senate Committee on Health is 10 per cent. They have The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "a preferential treatment of working with the National Assembly as opposed to working with the Senate. Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you are aware that we had our midterm review of the Senate activities for the last Session. We have only two years as a committee to help this Government to make sure that Universal Health Care (UHC) is properly rolled out to benefit Kenyans. Did you see any of the Ministry of Health officials in Naivasha when we had our review as a whole Senate, not as the Committee of Health? So, as the Committee when we say that we are frustrated--- Our Senate Leader of Majority knows. I had even asked him that I would like to stay away from chairing the Committee on Health because I do not want to be associated with failure when we have a whole Committee that is willing, committed and have innovative ideas. You have heard what Sen. Ledama has said. We are willing to make our contribution, ideas and innovation on how we can make these things work. Hon. Speaker, Sir, you know I am governor Emeritus . I have also run health for ten years. The Ministry can benefit from my experience as a former governor on how we can handle issues of pending bills in the county. However, where is the opportunity to have this discussion?"
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"content": " Sen. Mandago, those are valid concerns and as the Chair, it does not sit well when the CS is here and the Chairperson of the Senate Standing Committee on Health is complaining that he is not able. The whole team can understand and appreciate the ideas coming from the Senate. Our concern is for devolution to work. That is our core constitutional mandate. So, if the Chairman of the Committee on Health is complaining and lamenting that there is a disconnect between you and them, and from the Chair, I am giving guidance on what should be done on KEMSA, the report and all, does it mean even the directives that I am giving will not be implemented? Give your commitment that you will work with the Senate Standing Committee on Health. Give that commitment while you are here today."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Deborah Barasa): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we would like to inform you that we acknowledge and send our apologies. Out of the three times that we have been summoned, we have been able to attend two meetings which were quite fruitful and we were able to pick some critical concerns that we addressed and innovative ideas that we were able to implement. As I said earlier on, we appreciate the wok of the Senate and would like to collaborate together to ensure that Taifa Care becomes a success. So, out of the three, we attended two. We missed one because of a Cabinet meeting and I shared the same with Sen. mandago. However, moving forward, we would like to assure you that we shall collaborate. Indeed, health is devolved and these are critical things that we need to look into to ensure that we have successful implementation of Taifa Care. So, we apologise and assure you that you will not see another incident like this."
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