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"content": "You need to work better with this House. We passed those four laws knowing that SHA was going to be transformational and change the lives of Kenyans. Do not sit in your office, Hon. Cabinet Secretary, and listen to your choir of office officials. Come and listen to the representatives of the people to tell you the challenges that people are facing. I rest my case."
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"content": " The Senate Majority Leader, I had navigated that matter and I gave guidance. Since you represent the majority side, you have pushed a lot of business from the Ministry of Health. I remember we did Bills at midnight in Turkana. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, that heavy voice coming from the Senate Majority Leader, you should know things are not okay. You need to organize yourself, reorganize your team and take time to listen to the legislators. Senate is a House of reason. Things that you cannot be told by other people, you can be told by the Senators as we really want devolution to work. Most of the health issues are devolved. Therefore, most of the time spend it with the Senators because they know what is happening in the counties. Do not spend your time chasing for money in the National Assembly."
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"content": "After you have chased for your money, come back for policies from this House. You can see the House has almost more than 30 Senators who are listening to you and would want a dialogue with you. We are allocated you time to speak in Naivasha but I repeat again, find your time to sit with the Senators. There is a time you came to the National Assembly and you requested us to join you there. We had no time even to ask a question. There was absolutely no time. What you did at the tent there was not enough. We have many questions. It is only that I am chairing. I could have hammered you with so many questions if I was sitting on my seat here. As I guided Senators, let me get three more and then we move to the other questions. Proceed, Sen. Okiya Omtatah."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you for this opportunity to address the Ministry of Health."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am asking a supplementary question by addressing her. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, conceptually speaking, how do you reconcile the concept of Universal Health Coverage (UHC) and the practice of paying premiums? Paying premiums means that you have capacity. Universal means nobody is left behind. Paying premium means only those who are able can come on board. Therefore, how does it become UHC when people have to pay premium to access the service? We are trying to reinvent the wheel in Kenya. There is absolutely no country in the world where UHC is funded through premiums. It is usually funded by main taxes, and Kenya is a signatory to the Abuja Declaration of 2001. When did we move away from Abuja to SHA? That is the question I want you to answer after reconciling the philosophical contradiction that we are visiting upon this country by using stock phrases like universal health care. Thank you."
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