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"content": "Madam Minister, through you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is a premium platform. You should put what we are seeing in Social medial to rest because you have this forum. We are asking a simple question. Baby Arianna Wairimu has a bill of Kshs1,600,000. There is allegation that Kshs23,000 has been paid. You have officers around you. Why do you not consult so that we do not use social media hype to confirm that SHA is not working? Finally, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, let Madam Minister be specific. Are these funds under Social Health Authority working? In your answer, you have only said about the claims of SHIF and said nothing about the other two. Can you just confirm before the nation? If you do not have the answer at the moment, just ask for more time so that you can bring it. As legislators, we do not want to join the rest of the choir people who are saying that SHA is not working. We would like to protect your work."
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"content": " Sen. Mandago, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I would like to inform the CS that, just in case she is not aware, the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of SHA is seated somewhere in the Gallery. Perhaps with the help of the Serjeant-at-Arms, he can be ushered down to consult with the CS so that we can get an appropriate answer."
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"content": " Sen. Onyonka, please proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, first of all, I thank you for giving me this opportunity. Before I make my contribution, I would like to say that the Senate Majority Leader has pronounced himself. I believe that this discussion that we are having in this House is futile. It is an exercise in futility because the questions we have are close to 30. For me, I have not even asked her who are the owners of the financial platform. She is insisting that SHA and SHIF are working. The reality is that everybody in our Republic is talking about how that system does not work. I even want her to explain to me why the NIHF was removed from providing the basic services. We knew that NIHF had issues of corruption and mismanagement in terms of the payments. I see the Cabinet Secretary is struggling. Can I make a special request because I heard the Senate Majority Leader contribute and indeed the speaker who left before you came in did not pronounce himself what we need to do. I believe that this matter cannot be interrogated on the Floor of the House. Maybe we need to have it in committee so that we can spend even a whole day running through the figures, to ask those critical questions. Everything I hear here is as if this whole exercise is just a confusion and a rearrangement of things that I do not even understand. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am not very literate. I am averagely somebody who has been to school. So, can we as a Senate ask the Cabinet Secretary to go and prepare herself and bring this issue for us to go through it with a fine toothcomb so that once and for all we may decide whether it is working or not? If it is not working, we go back to NIHF and fix it so that it continues working. NIHF was doing better than what is happening right now. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": " Sen. Hamida Kibwana, you may proceed, and please be brief because we need to move to the next Question."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker. I will, in fact, I remind Madam Cabinet Secretary and even the Principal Secretary, Mr. Harry who was there. I told you, make us your friends. We shall walk with you. Convert us. I mean, have time with the Senate. I had even offered that we shall mobilize through the Chairperson, Senate Standing Committee on Health, Sen. Mandago. We shall mobilize the Senators only if have time with us to take us through so that we understand and we shall walk the talk. Unfortunately, that has not been done. Just a quick one, Madam Waziri . The stand-off between the private hospitals and the government over SHA. Looking at the digital claims right now, they are being processed in a way that they have been plagued with failures forcing providers to revert to the manual system. You are also talking about the success story and the success rate for patients' verification yet the problems are still there. So, can we just address the stand-off between the private hospitals and the government over debt and how you are planning to resolve the crisis."
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"content": " Sen. Joe Nyutu, you may proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker. I join the Senate Majority Leader in saying that the Senate should be given equal recognition, if not more recognition, by the Ministry, especially because health is devolved. I only hope and pray that that is not aimed at maybe preparing the ground for laying off some people. Coming to my question, especially regarding the baby from Nyandarua County, I would like the Cabinet Secretary to tell this House what SHA is doing for patients whose medication is not available locally. I say this because there are very many rare diseases. I do not know whether she knows about Gaucher disease, which is a rare disease whose treatment is not available locally. Where aid is given, there are very many high taxes charged by the government from those donors. So, what exactly is the position on rare diseases, especially those whose treatment is not available locally and what is SHA doing about the same with specific reference to Gaucher disease?"
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"content": " Finally, Sen. Wambua, please proceed."
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