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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, perhaps the Senate Majority Leader - who unfortunately I did not have the opportunity to speak to prior to the introduction of his Motion - because we are a House of record – could address legal and constitutional principles behind the decision that the House wants to take. I have looked at the section of the Powers and Privileges Act that you have invoked. Section 17(3)(d) and (g) of the Powers and Privileges Act and the Standing Orders of the Senate. There is no reference at all to rescinding decisions that have been passed by this House. Perhaps he can demonstrate to us, maybe when he is replying to the Motion, how this sits. He understand that there are grievous matters such as when a Bill is rejected in this House, in terms of the period within which it can be reintroduced. Lastly, perhaps the Senate Majority Leader in his reply can also speak to whether the subject of the attacks, the victims themselves, have said anything on this matter, so that as a House we also do not appear as if we are taking one side of the story. It would be nice to know whether there is any communication from the persons affected by the conduct of the Senator, so that when we are making that decision, we decide out of appreciation of the full facts. Those are going to be my only comments; we do not need to belabour. I thank you."
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"content": " Very well. Sen. John Kinyua, you may proceed."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Spika wa Muda. Mimi ninakubaliana na haya maombi. Pia ninakubaliana na Sen. Sifuna ya kwamba ijapokuwa tunamsamehe Sen. Orwoba, yule ambaye alikuwa ameathirika na matamshi yake, yeye amesema nini? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Hii ni kwa sababu unapofanya makosa na kuyajutia, unapaswa kumuomba msamaha yule ambaye ulimkosea ili naye aweze kukubali msamaha huo. Sisi kama Seneti tunaweza kukubaliana lakini yule ambaye aliadhirika bado yuko na uchungu. Ni vizuru Sen. Orwoba amuombe msamaha yule ambaye aliathirika kwa sababu Kitabu Kitakatifu cha Mungu kinasema kuwa kile ambacho kimesamehewa humu duniani, hata mbinguni kimesamehewa. Mimi ninakubaliana na wenzangu lakini kwa sababu yule hakosei ni mia kwa mia ni Mungu peke yake. Ni vizuri hata sisi tusamehe kwa sababu leo ni mimi, kesho ni wewe. Ni mtindo mzuri kwa watu kusameheana tukiwa katika dunia hii, ninaweza nikakukwaruza na kesho unikwaruzwe na mwingine. Ule uzoevu wa kusameheana utakuwa ni mfano mzuri katika nchi yetu ya Kenya. Tumekuwa tukijadili hii Hoja ya Bw. Leonard Mambo Mbotela, itakuwa ni ungwana kwetu sisi kuwasamehe wenzetu."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Abdul Haji",
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"content": " Sen. Wakili Sigei, you have the floor."
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"content": "Thank you once again, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. As I rise to also comment on the Motion by the Senate Majority Leader. It is not lost on us that the hon. Sen. Gloria Orwoba, did indeed exercise her right to seek judicial intervention and a finding was made by the court. As to her choice not to pursue an appeal against the decision, which went against her, could be a revelation on her part as to the importance of seeking to apologize before the House. This is because that decision seeking to challenge, was occasioned by the decision of this House. The House had decided to punish her for a period of 79 days. I believe her apology to the Members, including the victim of the actions that led to the punishment by the House, is sufficient in the circumstances, particularly where the Mover of the Motion has not completely proposed that the punishment be rescinded, but only be reduced from 79 days to 30 days. From where I sit, having a colleague who has without hesitation sought to be forgiven by the Members who could have been or could not have been affected by the decision that was made should be considered. The period of punishment be reduced as proposed by the Senate Majority Leader suffices. I am very sure that the Senate Majority Leader will also speak to a few of the issues that Members have raised here in the context of a decision having been made and also the position of the victim of the utterances that led to the subject we are debating this afternoon."
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"content": " Sen. Eddie Oketch."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, this is a very difficult issue for me to speak about because I am a new Member of this House. As a new Member of this House, I depend on the different legal instruments of this House on such matters. One of the things that I never want to vary is the wisdom of the leadership of the House when such a Motion has been sponsored by the Senate Majority Leader. I never The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "want to vary it because there is wisdom in that leadership. That is why you have leadership in the House. What will guide my judgment in supporting or not supporting this Motion? First is just guidance from the Senate Majority Leader whether the decisions of this magnitude made in this House merit as functus officio ? Under Article 125 of the Constitution, where the Powers and Privileges Committee comes and pronounces itself, then we make a judicious decision. Fundamentally, it means that that decision is made in the context of a High Court of Kenya. That is what the Constitution gives us the power to do. There was evidence that was required when the hon. Senator sat in the Powers and Prerogatives Committee, which then falls within Article 125. So, the question in layman's language is, once a court has made its decision, can it eat that decision? Can it come back and vary that decision? If I am guided so as a judge, I can talk about it. Secondly, the matter was further escalated by the hon. Senator to the judicial courts. We are a quasi-judicial House, but the matter was related to the courts and the courts had a pronouncement on this matter. I know that on the side of the Senate Minority side, the Senate Minority Leader is a former judge. So again, my wisdom cannot in any way dispute whatever guidance he would give us on our side as a Minority. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, when the matter was escalated to court, and the court made a pronouncement on it, can we vary the pronouncement of that court. Can we say that even though the court pronounced itself that the Senator must serve the entire suspension, is this still our decision, or is this still the decision of the court? Lastly, it is on the very important issue that the Senator of Nairobi City County, Sen. Sifuna has raised. The matter we are looking at here was not about the Senator. It was about the Senator vis-a-vis senior staff members who are serving the institution of the Senate and Parliament. We should not have opened that window of apology after the court’s decision. Does that apology, in his assessment, mean withdrawal of all the allegations against those members of the staff to the extent that we need to be judicious, not only just the Senator, but also to the staff members who were involved? So, would that mean, by extension, that there would be a requirement, whether a pseudo-requirement or an active requirement on the side of the Senator, to withdraw all those allegations that were found to be baseless? Then that way, it would be a House that is fair to both parties that are involved. It might not be a question of just voting, Senate Majority Leader, I think that this is just not a question that we might just discuss on the Floor of the House, but also might need wisdom on a small kamukunji perhaps. Where we can discuss and see how we also maintain and protect the sanctity of the House because we are setting a precedent for future generations."
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