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"content": "Thank you. Now, we will return to a few comments on Statements. We will start with the Deputy Minority Whip, Sen. Sifuna Edwin Watenya."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Allow me to make brief comments on Sen. Hamida's and Sen. Mundigi's Statements regarding the challenges facing the rollout of the new Social Health Insurance Fund. Despite the fact that the Cabinet Secretary for Health was here in the morning, questions continue to abound. While she was here, after I had made my comments - you know the rules of this House do not allow us to speak twice on the same issue - my phone was inundated by messages from UHC workers. As you know, after the Gen-Z movement, my number is now public. It was disseminated to just about everyone in the country. Out of the more than 500 messages that I received, I distilled the three issues that those UHC workers were telling me about. These are matters, and the Committee now has to have an intimate session with the Ministry's leadership and even these UHC workers themselves to reach the bottom of these matters. Number one, these UHC workers believe that the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Deborah, might have misled this House on the question of whether all UHC workers have been put on a permanent and pensionable basis. In fact, the Ministry only confirmed the people working or the UHC workers at the national hospitals, and 8,572 of those UHC workers have been on contract for the last five years. This is a matter that the Committee must get to the bottom of and report to this House. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Number two, it emerged that UHC nurses have been on strike for three weeks, demanding to be put on similar terms to their colleagues working in these national institutions. They are saying that the ones who are not put on permanent and pensionable terms, although they do the same work and face the same workload, are being paid up to a quarter of what their colleagues are earning because of their status. They also told me that they had not been paid gratuity since the days of COVID- 19 in 2020. These are the messages that I received on my phone. I am hoping that when the Committee sits down to deal with Sen. Hamida and Sen. Mundigi's questions, they will address this issue. Lastly, I could also discern from those messages that the UHC workers are saying that a supplementary budget was passed in the National Assembly for the absorption of UHC workers. They want to know where that money went. Unfortunately, I had already spoken, and I did not get the opportunity to ask that question directly to the Cabinet Secretary. However, now that this matter has come up again, it is being committed to the Committee on Health. I would want to encourage the Committee of Health, led by Sen. Mandago, to invite these UHC workers in the same room as the Cabinet Secretary because that is the only way to get to the bottom of the truth when there is the blame game. They are also tired of the blame game between the Government of Kenya, the Ministry and all other players. Can we have all these people in one room with the Cabinet Secretary and let them investigate these issues? I thank you."
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"content": " Members, please, make your comments in under two minutes. Many Members want to make comments, and there is also some business to transact. In the next 10 minutes, we should be through with these comments. Sen. Wafula, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to equally discuss the weighty matters discussed by our able Cabinet Secretary for Health. I want to concur with Members that the UHC matter has been a thorn in the flesh of Kenyans for over 10 years. Every time this matter arises, we see the Council of Governors, the Executive, and the Ministry of Health hold meetings discussing matters of UHC. When things bubble up and get out of hand, then the Senate is called to mediate and find a solution. Time is up, and the Senate needs to take its position to stamp its authority and demand that when matters dealing with devolution are being discussed at a meeting called a summit, we need our witnesses there so that we do not end up looking like morticians in the entire process. We need to be servants of the people who mediate a process with finality, with expectations that can be met, and not this merry-go-round that we see here today. The matters of Community Health Promoters are clearly known. We cannot keep silent when these things are out of order, and I want to assure you, that as Members of the Committee on Health, we will not leave any stone unturned. We will ensure that we give The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "the necessary support to the Ministry and that they are part of the bargain by the county governments. When you look at the entire debate, it is the Cabinet Secretary and the Principal Secretaries who are firefighting on this matter, but health is devolved. The county governments are silent; they are not stepping up to be counted, and we shall equally put them to task to ensure that not only the national Government is asked questions and answers, but the county governments must equally stand up to be counted. Thank you."
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"content": " What is it, Senate Majority Leader? Give him the microphone."
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"content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg for your indulgence. I noticed that earlier on when our colleague Sen. Lomenen requested that we have an Adjournment Motion, you slated it at 5.00 p.m. I want to bring to your attention that at 5.00 p.m., we have a service at the home of our departed colleague, Sen. Cheptumo, where many of our colleagues will be going. Therefore, I plead with you, to invoke Standing Order No.1 and vary that decision, so that perhaps we start at 4.15 p.m., so that by around 5.00 p.m. when we finish, many of us can join the rest who have are already gone to the late Sen. Cheptumo’s home for that service. I plead with you to allow, if you so permit, that we begin discussing the Adjournment Motion by Sen. Lomenen at 4.15 p.m. I thank you."
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