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"content": " Sen. Abass Sheikh Mohamed, please, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to join also Sen. Lomenen and the rest of the Members who talked. I send my condolences to the families who have lost their loved ones. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "As you are aware, this country has the longest borderlines with most of the neighbours, especially those that are unstable in Southern Sudan, Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia. Most of these countries are unstable, and there is no proper law and order. There are so many criminals roaming around with their sophisticated weapons. As a result, Kenyan borders have remained porous and unmanned for many years. We have very few officers in the field. Kenyan borders are not manned by Kenyan men and women of the Kenya Defence Forces and police officers, but by the locals. Therefore, it is high time that the locals also be armed especially in those areas, so they can be able to protect themselves, instead of telling them that they are having illegal guns and all these things. It is high time these rules be lessened, so they can be able to fight and repel the people who have invaded them. Many lives have been lost in Turkana, Mandera, Wajir and everywhere. People are coming from borderlines with guns, raiding the animals, and therefore, we remain unprotected. I will request that we come up with a policy and a law that will take care of and arm the people of the borderlines, so they protect themselves. We need to establish more border posts. Kenya has so many trained officers. We have the GSU, the Rapid Deployment Unit (RDU) and the Anti-Stock Theft units, which are well-trained. Unfortunately, most of those officers are now guarding the VIPs. The VIPs have taken half of the police officers in this country, right from the Presidency to the MCAs. There are so many. Half of the Kenyan police are guarding the VIPs. It is high time that we come up with a policy to reduce the number of police officers who are protecting the VIPs. The VIPs can even use Private security guards like KK than having police officers. We have used so much money to train officers yet Kenyans are dying by the day, being killed by criminals. There should be a law that will reduce the number of police officers guarding the VIPs. Our officers are poorly armed. They cannot match those criminals. Those guys have sophisticated guns, ammunition and money. They are selling even drugs to take care of themselves. Our officers are not paid their allowances. They live in bad places, they are not even getting their salary on time, they have no ammunition. They have nothing. It is high time that we must also change our policy so that we will be able to protect ourselves. So, these people should be taken care of, they should be paid their allowances and salaries on time. Our officers are demotivated and they are staying in very harsh areas for a long time. There must be a specific time to keep those officers in those places. Everybody should be able to rotate in time, so at least everybody will be motivated to stay at a certain place, at a certain time and with a certain kind of allowances. Also on infrastructure, the roads are not passable. The roads are in very poor condition. Even if today you sent a vehicle to rescue those guys, they cannot make it to that place. I was seeing the other day when the President was saying that he is building a 720-kilometre road to Mandera, some Kenyans were making jokes as if Wajir and Mandera are not part of Kenya. It is the same thing with Turkana. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "So, I think it is high time that we must accept that those areas need to be developed. Kenyans cannot be rescued, especially in Turkana and Mandera, because of the road conditions. It is time that we give enough budget for those roads to be developed so that we can be able to save Kenyans because we are losing so many lives."
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"content": " Sen. Onyonka, you may proceed."
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"content": "Thank you so much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I stand here to also condole with my friend and colleague, Sen. Lomenen, because he is dealing with a very intricate matter that sometimes is quite surprising to many of us. I grew up in this country of ours that we love, listening to how many times cattle rustlers were running all over the place, killing people in the far-flung areas of Kenya. I thought those were people who were very far away, and I did not even have to be concerned about what their lives had become. As a Member who is very proud to be in the opposition, once again I am going to start asking the sitting government to explain to us why our people are being killed within our borders. I am going to be requesting that this House begin to interrogate and analyze what our responsibility is, as I have heard Hon. Sen. Ali Abass speak very ably. Why do we not start thinking about the legislation that we need to make sure that we are now beginning to pass laws and change some of the laws that we have, so that if we have to create border points police posts, and police stations, then so be it? Sen. Abass has also talked about border posts. The other day, as a Member of this Senate, we travelled to Mandera. I was shocked that Mandera is not a one-stop-shop border post between Kenya and Ethiopia even though you will hear that business is taking place, people are crossing over the border, and life has gone on normally. I wish that the Government would take Turkana seriously, and look at all the challenges that the county is facing. It is very sad to lose 20 people, and on some figures, we are being told the people who died could be 40. To make matters worse, these were individuals who are being killed and thrown into Lake Turkana. It is inhuman, it is unfair, but I think we also need to be more responsible. I agree with what Hon. Sen. Cherarkey said, where you find that the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration is saying that this is a very small incident. It is not. The death of one person, like the brother we lost in Haiti, is one too many. We do not want anybody to trivialize cattle rustling, inter-border and cross-border wars. The truth is that we have the evidence, we have the people who know. I could use the Karamoja issue where we had the frequents war taking place between the Karamoja in Uganda and the Turkana in Kenya. President Museveni, for the first time, made a wonderful decision of picking his wife, even when I disagree about us employing our relatives. Mrs. Museveni actually solved the problem between the Karamoja of Uganda and the Turkana of Kenya. Hon. Lomenen, I wanted to say that our President could also pick Madam Rachel and even make her the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration if that is what could solve this problem. As a mother, she may understand, and I think the people might believe her more if she came in as a peace ambassador to make sure that The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "these cattle rustling and killing of Kenyans by outsiders and our open borders is something that we must stop as soon as possible. With these remarks, I hope that the Government will move as fast and as quickly to interrogate this matter. The Government should even think right to come to this House and ask us to permit the Kenyan Defence Forces to go to those areas and try and make sure that we maintain peace permanently."
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"content": " Thank you. Sen. Sifuna Edwin, you may proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to take this opportunity on behalf of the people of Nairobi City County as well to convey our heartfelt condolences and commiserations with the people of Turkana through their Senator; Sen. hon. Lomenen, who has caused this Adjournment Motion for us to discuss the situation in Turkana. As you know, I am a very proud Secretary General of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), a party that has a very strong presence in Turkana. In Turkana North, we are represented in the National Assembly by hon. Ekwem Nabuin, who was elected on an ODM ticket and his counterpart, hon. Ariko Namuit, who represents Turkana South. These two Members of Parliament have taken the liberty to brief the party on the situation in Turkana as they see it. I want to go through some of the reports that we have got from our two Members of Parliament. I will be presenting this brief before a meeting of the organ of a party that is scheduled tomorrow. First, it is clear that this attack was carried out by Ethiopian militia who are operating on the northern most tip of Turkana County. According to these two Members of Parliament, there are more than 30 fishermen who are missing and feared massacred inside the lake during that attack. They also confirmed to party that they are yet to retrieve the bodies because the Ethiopian side is not cooperating and unwilling to engage with them."
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"content": "[The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) left the Chair]"
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