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"content": "money. They do not manage money for the maintenance and construction of roads. It is managed independently by the regional managers in charge of KURA, KeRRA, and KeNHA. They have their procurement teams that procure anything they want. Members of Parliament have nothing to do with the road funds. Hon. Speaker, we do not want to pick quarrels with anyone, but we must remain truthful to our Constitution. I believe Senior Counsel, Hon. Otiende Amollo, would agree with me. He was among the drafters of the Constitution 2010. I can see him raising his hand. I rest my case to be helped by him."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Leader of the Majority Party, who almost became Leader of the Minority Party, has reminded us that you are a former Senator which is true. I am sure your allegiance to the Senate is historical, but to this House, is present which carries the day."
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"content": "My allegiance to the law and Constitution is permanent."
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, that, must be tried on an hourly basis. The issue raised by Hon. Kangogo Bowen goes beyond what he has raised; the Budget Policy Statement. It goes to the jurisdiction of the Houses of Parliament. I urge you to issue an authoritative Communication in this House founded on Articles 94 and 95 of the Constitution. What I have noticed is an overreaching situation. It is not only in that committee, but also in the committees that we serve where a particular State department is supposed to appear, but we are told there is a simultaneous invitation by another committee of the Senate. If you examine keenly, you cannot see the nexus among that committee, the work of the counties and jurisdiction of the Senate. I believe this House endeavours to confine itself to its jurisdiction. When the Constitution says that we have no role in the impeachment of governors, this House has never tried to play a role. We watch from afar like the rest of Kenyans. When the Constitution says that in the impeachment of the President or the Deputy President, our role is limited to the initiation and we are not the trial chamber, we restrict ourselves to that initiation. This is something that many Kenyans do not understand. When I was out there, many Kenyans asked me why the National Assembly did not give the erstwhile Deputy President an opportunity to defend himself. We did not allow lawyers to come. This is because Kenyans do not understand that our role is restricted to initiation of the impeachment process. The Senate is the trial chamber, and we respect that. Reciprocally, the Senate must respect where the jurisdiction lies in the National Assembly. Firstly, failure to do so results in creating difficulties for the Government to work. Government cabinet secretaries, principal secretaries and other officials are permanently being invited to the two Houses of Parliament. They cannot even do their work. Secondly, it results in a very dangerous situation where one House of Parliament can make a recommendation while the other one makes the opposite recommendation. The ultimate effect is to reduce the final effect of Parliament which should not be allowed to happen. It must be remembered that when a committee of this House or Senate summons an officer of the Government, they have the powers of the court. However, that committee must address itself as to why it is given the powers of the court. A criminal court cannot summon someone on an environmental matter and vice versa. The committees of the Senate and the Senate must first address and ask themselves whether it is within their powers, before they assume the powers of the court. I wonder. We have many litigants. Some people call them busybodies, but I do not call them that. We encourage people to go to court. But I do not know The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "why these free-court-going persons have never challenged the assumption of jurisdiction by the Senate on matters that do not belong to them. Until they do so, the commencement point…"
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"content": "Many of them are either vexatious or surrogates."
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"content": " Yes, indeed, many of them are surrogates. They are inspired by things other than respect for the Constitution."
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, the starting point to bring sanity is an authoritative Communication from you. This will help some of these Government cabinet secretaries and principal secretaries. They do not know where to seek refuge. If they get it, they might rely on it and say they heard a Communication from the National Assembly. Then, it will be up to the Senate or anybody else to challenge it in court. I submit, Hon. Speaker."
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