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"content": " I assume your Report was supposed to inform this one."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is slightly different."
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"content": " Yes."
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"content": " The Report of the first Bipartisan Talks Committee which we co-chaired was substantive. Unfortunately, we never made progress. We reached a stalemate and eventually, we were disbanded. Then, NADCO was formed to take the matter afresh and bring a report which I have presented here. As I have stated, we meet with the Senate and could not reach a consensus. So, we requested for an extension of time; after which we were allowed to sit separately. That is why the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs produced a Report of its own, which was tabled on 8th October 2024. The Senate Committee also considered the matter, but did not table their Report. So, the Leaders of the Majority and Minority Parties instructed the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs to sit with the Senate Committee and harmonise the two Reports. Currently, we are debating the harmonised Report. The Report by the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, which we tabled here, has not been acted on or debated. So, it died naturally. However, the points in the Report are important, especially for those who had dissenting opinions. This is because they can voice those opinions as they debate this particular Report."
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"content": " For purposes of this debate, I will allow Members who are inclined to refer to the earlier Report to do so. As the Chairperson has said, the Report that you are debating today is a product of the latter Report. The Committee harmonised the two reports with the Senate, and this was based on what he had presented to Parliament. I quickly read the Report. The dissent, if we call it that, by Hon. Kajwang’ and others, is captured in the current Report that we are debating. I do not think there will be anything patently wrong, if any Member wishes to refer to the original NADCO Report."
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"content": "Hon. Eckomas."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to second the Joint Report of the NADCO that has been ably moved by my Chairperson, Hon. Murugara."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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