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"content": " Hon. Muhia, insert your card in the intervention slot so that I can give you an opportunity to prosecute your point of order. Just get your card. There are staff members over there. You can send them to get your card so that you can insert in the intervention slot. I will give you a chance to air your point of order. This is the procedure of the House and you know this very well."
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"content": "Not quite. The rules apply to everybody speaking in the House and you know it. Those are our rules, Hon. Wanjiku."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, if you allow me, I wish to continue seconding the Motion."
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"content": " Hon. Muhia get your card, come back, and I will give you an opportunity to prosecute your point of order. Go ahead, Hon. Mutuse."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to second the Motion that has been moved by my very able Chairperson and senior, Hon. George Gitonga Murugara. This is a Report of the Joint Committee of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and its equivalent in the Senate on the NADCO. The Chairperson has taken us through the historical background of where we came from up to where we are in terms of what transpired in NADCO. He started from the beginning where we had the bipartisan team that was jointly co-chaired by our Chairperson and Senior Counsel Otiende Amollo. I also participated in that team. I want to be very brief and confirm the sentiments by Senior Counsel Otiende Amollo, that there was some laxity by our sister Committee in the Senate to attend meetings. Initially, as a Committee, this prompted us to consider the NADCO Report without the participation of the Senate Committee. That is what produced the Report that was tabled in the House in October. I want to confirm that we agreed 98 per cent on the issues in that Report. Hon. Otiende Amollo alluded to three Members who had divergent opinions on a few issues. Therefore, in enhancing our right to hold divergent opinions and constitutional right of freedom of expression, I do not think there will be a problem if Members are allowed to refer to the original Report by the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs. Hon. Temporary Speaker, in this Report, we separated the constitutional amendments that require a referendum in order to be enacted from those that do not. Under Article 255 of the Constitution, there are different routes to constitutional amendments. One of them is the parliamentary initiative, where we do not require a referendum. The other is the popular initiative, where on particular clauses and articles of the Constitution, you require a referendum so as to amend."
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"content": "One of the distinct amendments we have brought before this House and recommended that they be processed through a parliamentary initiative involves NG-CDF, NGAAF and the Senate Oversight Fund. This is because we do not want important issues that are of public interest to be lost. We separated them so that Kenyans can choose what they want and what they do not want. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "As alluded, we found it difficult to know where to place the office of the leader of opposition. As we are aware, the political elite out there are clamouring - including us - for the creation of the office of the leader of opposition. Looking at it technically, there are three Arms of Government; the Executive, Legislature and Judiciary. We were unable to place the office of the leader of official opposition in any of the three arms of the Government. If it is created as an office in the Executive, we asked ourselves: How will that person sit in the Legislature? If it is an office in the Legislature, how will that person enjoy the protocols of the Executive and trappings of power? We also found that it will be a little clumsy to have both the Leader of Minority and the Leader of Official Opposition sitting in the House. We recommended that, if possible, we get another route to create that amendment."
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