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"content": " Read the observations of the Committee. It has rejected. The proposal was overly ambitious. It would pose significant implementation challenges during the current term of Parliament."
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"content": " Order. It is good to debate so that Kenyans are informed. Hon. Murugara, you can give us the page in the Report where the Committee accepted that proposal. The only thing they call overly ambitious is the proposal to implement it in this term of Parliament. The Committee accepted the proposal on party lists."
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"content": " They are saying: “It was the Committee’s view that it would be neater to implement the proposal at the term of the current Parliament”. Whatever it is, the bottom line is that it is not workable. We already have a solution in the current Constitution. All we need are about 87 fine ladies elected into this Parliament. Already, forty-seven have special seats and 12 should be reserved for women, whether those with disability, workers or representatives. As a condition of receiving political party funding, parties should be made accountable in that they must have enough women. I am happy with whatever has been recommended."
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"content": " Hon. Caroli, I will give you more time on this. I want you to read paragraph 88 in page 17."
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"content": " It says: “The Bill proposes to amend Articles 97 and 98 of the Constitution. New clauses are inserted to provide that where after the general election the two-thirds principle is not met in the National Assembly and the Senate…” This is where they will fill them through party lists, which is an oxymoron. Hon. Temporary Speaker, as a lawyer, you know there is no concept of “party lists” in our constitutional order."
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"content": " Hon. Caroli, I am holding you to this because you are reading the Report of the Committee selectively. If you read paragraphs 88 and 89, it states that they agree with the Report and the two-thirds gender rule should be implemented through party lists. What they are saying is overly ambitious. In paragraph 92, there is a proposal to implement it in this term. So, if we go by the Report, we will still have party lists that will provide a top-up. That is what they are saying."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. So that I make progress on the other clauses, I will leave it here. It will suffer the same fate as the Building Bridges Initiative (BBI)."
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"content": " Correct. Allow him three more minutes."
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"content": " Yes. It will suffer the same fate as the BBI. Secondly, I am very happy that this Report clearly rejects the proposal to have the leader of official opposition. Our constitutional architecture does not contemplate a position called “the leader of opposition.” If any leader of a political party wishes to lead his party in Parliament, there is a pathway that is provided by the Constitution. They should nominate themselves on The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "the nomination roll and then come to this House and be the minority leader. There is no way the leader of the official opposition can exist in our constitutional order. So, again, we were taking people for a ride. I am happy that it is out. On Political Parties Bill, I am very happy that this Report recommends that political parties cannot take away your election as they have tried in the past with some of us. In Kenya, Members are elected directly by the people, not by parties. Parties are not elected in elections in Kenya. Once you are elected, even if you disagree with your party, it cannot remove you from this House. That is the law. Let me put it very clearly. What we need to do is to create “a cross-bench” in this House. Today, if you go to the House of Commons, the former leader of the Labour Party – the one who ran for elections and lost – is no longer in the Labour Party. He ran as an independent candidate. There should be a cross-bench out there for those who have disagreed with their parties on issues and do not wish to caucus with them. There should be a cross-bench where they will be free to sit. That is a practise in the Commonwealth. A political party cannot overturn the will of the people after you have been elected. That is the law. They should have gone further to review Section 7(2)(a) and Section 7(2)(3) of the Political Parties Act, where dominant political parties are putting barriers for the establishment of parties that can compete with them. We will discuss the Political Parties Amendment Bill which is in the NADCO Report, but with illegalities. There is no requirement that my party should have 1,000 members in 25 sub-counties or if I have a party, I should be registered in those sub-counties. For example, if I want to form an Omena party for Omena fishermen, I should be allowed. A political party should be registered in not more than 72 hours. That is a practise in the Commonwealth. What we see are games where dominant political parties are trying to create entry barriers to new competition in the political space. This is an illegality and there are many others. I read the NADCO Report… I can see that my time is running out and I may not exhaust everything. I am very happy that this Report will meet the same fate as BBI. This is because there are a lot of illegalities. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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