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"content": "This is so that the Kshs134.5 billion that remains here at Afya House when health is fully devolved, left at Afya House to be abused, that money, either 50 per cent or 60 per cent, should be rolled into SHA and the Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF). If we do not do this, then the women today who are in the maternity ward at the Kakamega Provincial General Hospital, they are there today, they have been imprisoned because they did not clear the bills. Their husbands are screaming, they are in my home every morning saying: “My wife has been arrested after giving birth and yet the last time when she gave birth, I walked in with a National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) card and I was given my wife and the child.” Those are the people who voted for me and the people I will speak for. Those are the people who deserve representation, not you, rich people. Every time I see people say, “Oh, accept this is going on because I contribute Kshs27,036.” That is not the point! The point is the people who vote for us, the parents of the children who are in the Gallery this afternoon. I know most of you are not any different from these people whose wives have been arrested at the Kakamega Provincial General Hospital. You are lucky. If your mother had delivered you in hospital, she would have been arrested. You were delivered in a banana plantation like myself. That is how serious it is."
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"content": " That is more than the one minute that I gave you, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale."
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"content": "In conclusion, SHA must be properly thought through. The Government made an error in trying to roll out a very good thing without proper piloting."
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"content": " We must now be concluding the Statements. I can see that Senator Manzo is not ready. I, therefore, give the Floor to Sen. Cherarkey"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on the issue of SHA, I want to caution the Office of the Auditor-General (OAG). Under Article 229 of the Constitution, the OAG is very critical in auditing. I am the biggest champion of transparency agencies in the country. However, we should not allow the OAG to sensationalise a critical Government programme. The media also has been part of this wider scheme of sensational stories yet, under Article 22(8) of the Constitution, Parliament has a role. We need to consider these reports. It does not mean that when the OAG has brought a report on the issue of SHA, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "we take it as gospel truth. Parliament must consider and look at the options that come out. Therefore, this thing does not make sense--- The return of brown envelope media has been a problem in this country. You can see they are even attacking the person and stature of a Cabinet Secretary by calling her clueless, yet they do not have regard for what she has already done under the SHA. Therefore, the Auditor-General's report on the Social Health Authority (SHA) is a sensational story that should be taken with a pinch of salt by Kenyans, who take seriously Article 229 of the Constitution because Parliament must consider that report. Finally, on the issue of voiding payments in Migori County, I want to ask the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) to look into this issue of Migori, because of the voiding payment of over Kshs300 million. Migori County should be declared a crime scene. How can the county government void payments of more than Kshs300 million, yet it cannot be accounted for? If the EACC was functioning, apart from arresting people who have committed bribery of Kshs1,000 or Kshs10,000, Migori County should be declared a crime scene. I hope the Secretary General (SG) of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) and Deputy Party Leader, should call their Governor. He always says they have the best practices in terms of protecting devolution. Even as we do the oversight ---"
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Just a minute, Sen. Cherarkey. Sen. Sifuna, what is your point of order?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, is the Senator for Nandi in order to ascribe duties that are reserved for investigative agencies to a political party? He knows very well that political parties are not enforcement agencies when it comes to matters of alleged criminal conduct. All breaches of the law have to be sent to the proper agencies. Is he in order to invoke ODM willy-nilly and yet, this is a very powerful political party in matters that have nothing to do with politics."
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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, is a seasoned legislator. He knows once the reports come to the Senate, they go to the Committee on County Public Accounts (CPAC), and then CPAC makes recommendations to certain institutions. Therefore, stop being diversionary. Do you know you are guiding the citizens who are watching us?"
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