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"content": "Hon. Umulkher, there are too many empty seats where you are coming from. You should have taken the nearest one."
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Order, Hon. Ngogoyo. You know the procedure. You are supposed to remain in your seat, and if you are given an opportunity to speak, that is when you stand up. You cannot be so presumptuous to assume that you will speak whenever you want to. What is your point of order?"
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 216(2) which states: “216. (2) A Member appointed to a Departmental Committee at the commencement of a Parliament or at any other time during the term of Parliament shall, unless the House otherwise resolves, serve for the term of the Parliament, subject to Standing Order 176.” Standing Order 176 provides the criteria for the discharge of a Member from a Committee. Standing Order 176(1) states: “176. (1) A party may discharge a Member from a select Committee after the Member has been accorded an opportunity to be heard.” Standing Order 176(2) states: The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "“176. (2) The party whip of the party that nominated a Member to a select Committee shall give notice in writing to the Speaker of the intention to discharge a Member from a select Committee.” Standing Order 176(3), which is most important, states: “176. (3) The Speaker shall, within three days of receipt of the notice under paragraph (2), inform the Member of the notice.” I am a Member of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining. If I am to be removed from the Committee, Standing Order 176 shall apply under Standing Order 216. It is indicated in our Standing Orders. You cannot remove a Member from a Committee. I am not on the list of Members serving in the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining, which I was nominated to at the beginning of this Parliament. Even if Hon. Osoro and Hon. Ichung’wah do not want me on that Committee, they must remove me procedurally. Give me a hearing and notify the Speaker to give me a notice. It would not be in order to continue with whatever is happening here. It is okay to remove me from the Committee because our procedures and rules provide for it, but that should be done procedurally. Hon. Speaker, you are one of the creators of the Standing Orders. I have used them for the last 12 years. I was a Whip of a County Assembly so I know how to use the Standing Orders. I should receive a letter, be accorded a hearing, and notice given to the Speaker, who should inform me within three days. You cannot remove me. I have been a Member of that Committee, and I cannot be removed in the manner in which you want to, however powerful you might be. It is not correct. Whatever has been tabled before this House is null and void and cannot operate. We have Standing Orders, procedures, rules and traditions of this House. When Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah and several other Members were de-whipped from Committees, Hon. Wangwe, the immediate former Chief Whip of the Majority Party, wrote letters to specific Members. Apart from that, communications were done directly to the Speaker. The Speaker cannot oversee my removal from a Departmental Committee without I being discharged by my political party. Hon. Speaker, because you are the Solomon of this House, kindly do not proceed with this Motion in the state that it is in. It would be unprocedural. This is the making of Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah, which cannot work in this Assembly."
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"content": "Yes, Leader of the Majority Party."
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, the Member for Kajiado North Constituency is my very good friend who served as a Member of the County Assembly of Kajiado. He has clearly read out the Standing Orders. I will choose to ignore the invocation of my name, which is now a soft spot for those who have nothing else to speak about except Kimani Ichung’wah. I know why he is invoking my name, but I will restrict myself to the provisions of the Standing Orders. The Standing Orders make it clear that a Member shall serve on a Committee unless otherwise resolved by the House. Therefore, I implore the Member for Kajiado North Constituency that instead of carelessly invoking the name of Kimani Ichung’wah who is not the Chief Whip of the Majority Party, he should spend time convincing the House to resolve otherwise. The Chief Whip of the Majority Party is called Hon. Silvanus Osoro. My friend, go and do such things in the County Assembly of Kajiado, and not in the National Assembly. Spend your time in the National Assembly discussing matters of greater importance to the people of Kajiado North who are suffering without roads, and whose children cannot even go to school because their Member of Parliament is busy following people in some other villages somewhere. Why not follow your constituents and address their issues? I will not allow any Member to use my name to seek cheap publicity. Our Standing Orders are very clear, and Hon. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Ngogoyo should know that. Deal with matters to do with your constituency. There are some levels of insatiable greed that we cannot satisfy as a House. The issue raised is simple. Let Hon. Ngogoyo convince Members of this House to resolve otherwise. The Standing Orders he read are in very simple language that even a Member of a County Assembly can interpret."
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