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"content": "ADOPTION OF JOINT REPORT OF ON CONSIDERATION OF NADCO AND THE MULTI-SECTORAL WORKING GROUP ON THE REALIZATION OF THE TWO-THIRDS GENDER PRINCIPLE"
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"content": "THAT, the Senate adopts the Joint Report of the National Assembly Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and the Senate Standing Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights on its consideration of the Report of the National Dialogue Committee (NADCO) and the Report of the Multi- Sectoral Working Group on the realization of the Two-thirds Gender Principle, laid on the Table on Thursday, 13th February, 2025."
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"content": "(Sen. Wakili Sigei on 12.3.2025)"
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"content": "(Resumption of debate interrupted on 12.3.2025 - Afternoon Sitting)"
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"content": "(Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi): Proceed, Sen. Beatrice Ogola."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Motion. I especially applaud the leadership of this country, that is the two leading lights; His Excellency the President and the former Prime Minister. It is not for any reason that I indicate that I am proud of these two gentlemen. This is a discussion that came from the NADCO Report from a group that was constituted by the President and the former Prime Minister, Rt. Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga, because of their charisma and patriotism for this country. Yesterday we had a delegation of Homa Bay County leadership, led by our performing Governor, Hon. Gladys Wanga, that met the Head of State. That is a right of any leader in this country. Something that I must applaud from that visit is that the Head of State was categorical and made a statement that touched my heart. He indicated that Kenya is big enough for all of us. He added that in this country, no community needs to leave for the other to come into leadership. That is why we are saying that everybody must reconsider their decision. Let us all be part and parcel of this country. Let us be part and parcel of running this country. Let us be part and parcel of all the initiatives in this country. It was very critical when the Head of State made that statement. I realised that we do not even need outrageous thinking of shareholding that we have had in this country after elections. There is a notion that there are people who must be in and must own this"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "country in certain percentages. I want to declare that Kenya is for all Kenyans and we must all be part of running of this country. We want to tell anybody who thinks that they can only be there alone. We want to convince everybody that we do not need some communities to leave the Government for some to get in. We need everybody in this country. Possibly that is the reason this country is still holding up. After meeting the Head of State, as the leadership of my county, we also met the Rt. Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga. In our discussion, the former Prime Minister told us that we all belong to this country, we can all be comfortable in this country, and that we all need each other. He went ahead to say that nobody should be uncomfortable because somebody is part of this Government. After all, we all belong and we all have some space. Going back to the NADCO Report, I want to state here that I support it. In this country, we must implement the two-thirds gender rule. In our discussion with the President, he was very emphatic. I saw a man who has a vision for this country; a man who wanted to carry everybody in this country; a man who does not want to leave the youth behind; a man who does not want to leave women behind; a man who does not want to leave any quarter behind because he believes that in this country, we are all equal and we all belong to Kenya. The President promised that delegation that one thing he will see to its fruitful end is implementation of the two-thirds gender rule. Why do we want a country where we have women being over 55 per cent, but we do not want them to have an equal measure of seats in leadership at all levels and structures of decision-making? We are not specific that the gender rule will only affect--- When people talk about the gender rule, they go very fast to point at elective seats. Let us embrace the two-thirds gender rule, whether in appointive or elective positions. Since the Senate guards and protects the interest of the counties, the Senate must ensure that in the formation of structures in the counties, they adhere to the two- thirds gender rule. I have been a County Executive Committee Member (CECM) in a county government. All appointing authorities, even in the national Government, run to the minimum of not more than two-thirds. We have counties where people only go for only three women out of 10 appointive positions. Why do we not have even five-five? Why do we not have six women against four men? Why not the other way around? I am not saying that gender is only about women. I am mentioning women because it is the women who have not been considered much. As a country, let us include everybody in decision-making. Let us get women into seats. We are not only getting women into seats because we want to see the physical women. It is not just physical women that we are looking for. We are looking for the gender and the thinking of women to be brought up at the decision-making table. I am here because I was nominated on the gender platform. As we discuss here and make decisions, we are doing so with the thinking of other women outside the Houses in mind. As I support this Motion, I encourage the leadership of this country to give us the goodwill so that we solve this problem once and for all."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "This country called Kenya is admired in this continent because we lead and others follow. How can it be that when it comes to an important issue such as the gender rule, then we are backtracking? I challenge all the men in Parliament, be it in the Senate or the National Assembly. Let us show that we are charismatic, passionate and patriotic. You cannot live with people as your wives, sisters or daughters, but you do not like them getting into those positions. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I support this Motion and all that was discussed in the NADCO Report. As I rest, I want to appreciate the two leaders who saw to it that it is through negotiations that we can solve a lot of conflicts. Mr. Temporary Speaker, as we break for recess, our people down at the counties are looking forward to their leaders visiting them and sharing with them the challenges that they go through. Let us go down to the ground and share with our people the confusion that is in the Social Health Authority (SHA) and issues of delayed disbursement of funds. I support."
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