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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, maybe that Cabinet Secretary might be able to answer this question."
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"content": " No, no, no! Whether he is in a position or not, it is not a supplementary question. A supplementary question must flow from the primary question. Sen. Mungatana, you may proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me the Floor. I just wanted the Cabinet Secretary to clarify one issue flowing from his statement and answer this question; does the Government have a different policy approach towards compensation for Tana River County as opposed to other counties? I am speaking specifically to the Tana and Athi River Development Irrigation Project where the Government came and took even ancestral land and to date, the people have never been compensated. On one part, we are hearing that there is compensation, while on the other part, we are hearing that there is no compensation. Even when the Head of State himself came and said that it must be done to date, some people have not been compensated. So, can subdivision of that land be done, so that the land that does not belong to the people, we can do irrigation and the land that belongs to the people can be given to them? So, clarify to us, does the Government, in which you are serving, have a different policy for our area as opposed to other parts of the country, or is it the normal suppressing of areas that are far from the cities, that has been the colonial policy since independence? Thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Onyonka, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am happy to have this opportunity to ask this question. On several occasions, in this House, we have raised issues about people who have never been compensated for their land, which was utilized by either Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA), Kenya National Highways Authority (KeNHA), or the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR). Some of these people, have never been compensated for the last 10 years. In fact, some of the parents have died. I presented a case of a family of a Mzee who died and he has left nine family members who are completely distraught. Can we be informed whether there is a likelihood that this matter can be sorted out once and for all? These are some of the issues which we keep on postponing and they are creating a lot of distraught amongst various people, stakeholders and communities in the republic. I thank you. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": " Hon. Cabinet Secretary (CS), you may now proceed to respond."
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"content": "(Hon. (Eng.) Eric Murithi Mugaa): Thank you, Hon. Speaker, Sir, and, Hon. Members, for the follow-up questions. I would like to request to be given more time in regard to questions that are not part of the Question that we had prepared on, so that I am able to give a comprehensive list and well-thought answers to the hon. Members and the country at large. There was a question on when we would need the indulgence of the Hon. Member for Migori County. We need his indulgence, especially on settling these cases out of court, at all times, especially after payment. This is because, upon verification, land disputes always arise and the grievance redress mechanism that we have put in place cannot work in isolation without the indulgence of the leadership of the area. The Senator is a key leader in the county and, therefore, we would seek his indulgence in the process. There was a question by Hon. Ledama on the process of land acquisition. The process of land acquisition starts by the preparation of a Resettlement Action Plan (RAP). Once the Ministry prepares that, we forward the RAP report to the National Land Commission, that further takes that forward by identifying the pieces of land, doing valuation, and then they give time to address the grievances, after which there is an award, and payment is made by the National Land Commission. That is the standard practice in the country right now, more so in the Ministry, that is the way we do it. After the inauguration of the new Constitution, the Ministry stopped doing the process itself. It became the mandate of the National Land Commission (NLC) and we always engage them in case of land disputes. There was a question on what is the outstanding amount to be paid to the PAPs in Lower Koji Irrigation Scheme. The outstanding balance is Kshs128 million, and we have clearly highlighted the process on how we plan to acquire that. I would like to answer the question by Hon. Mugatana on the Tana and Athi Rivers Development Authority (TARDA), where there are irrigation schemes being carried out by TARDA. TARDA is under the Ministry of East African Community, Arid and Semi-Arid Lands (ASALs). It is not under the---"
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"content": " Hon. CS, the question by Hon. Mugatana was, do you have different policies for different areas on matters compensation?"
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"content": "(Hon. (Eng.) Eric Murithi Mugaa): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I do not believe we have different policies because we are all mandated to go through the National Land Commission on matters payment of land compensation. I would like to answer the question by Hon. Onyonka. We have had issues in different projects, where even the PAPs have passed on. This has been a legacy challenge that has been ongoing in the Government. In the Ministry, in case the person to be compensated has passed on, the next of kin is considered by the National Land Commission for compensation. That is the status as it is. There was a question on why do we have legacy compensation issues. I found that ongoing in the Ministry. However, at the moment and going forward, when we do The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "projects, especially by the Government of Kenya, and also development partners, the development partners focus on developing the infrastructure. So, we do not mostly get funding for PAPs or land compensation.The Government of Kenya is responsible for payment of the compensation charges that are required, especially when new projects are commencing. We are now developing a criterion that, going forward, we ensure that we sort out land issues to avoid further delays in the process, and this does not become a historical challenge. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I submit."
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