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"content": "Despite being such a huge segment of our transport system, motorcyclists end up being passive takers of prices. They are supposed to negotiate and be a force to reckon with in our market. They end up not getting prices and profits commensurate to the work they do. That way, prices are unjustifiable in regard to what they do. Out of the triangulation of these three main factors, the Committee came up with a raft of recommendations amenable to the sector’s contribution to the country. One of them is to make sure that they are recognised in law and TNCs. Hon. Deputy Speaker, regulations will help to level the playing ground for different sectors. They will ensure there are rules in place to treat every person or segment of the transport sector fairly and in a very transparent way. If this is done, the sector will blossom in a very entrepreneurial setting. Further, the amendment of the National Transport and Safety Authority (Transport Network Companies, Owners, Drivers and Passengers) Regulations, 2022 that has been recommended by the Committee attempts to regulate and provide a safety net so that the bodaboda riders get the right protection against those extreme abuses they have been facing in the past. It will also ensure that this sector is recognised and can do business in a very thriving way without being agonised or mistreated. With those few contributions, I second, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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"content": "Those Hon. Members who want to contribute to this debate, could you press the intervention button? Okay, Hon. Irene Mayaka."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for this opportunity. I hereby stand to support this particular report because e-hailing motorcycle services in this country have become one of those things that are called a ‘necessary evil.’ It is a service that is widespread all over the country. Every county in this country has these services The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "already. I have had an opportunity to interact with how the legal framework has been done in some of the other countries, especially in Asia and some of the African countries. I can tell you for a fact that because of them being able to put legal frameworks and recognition of this particular service, they have been able to increase the efficiency and security not only of the service providers but also of the people who particularly consume this service. One of the things that will be helpful in this is data protection because data protection in terms of the people who use any online platforms has become quite a big issue. I like the fact that the Committee has recommended that that be one of the solutions to ensure that there is proper governance in that particular space. We are also talking about automated payments and security. It can become very cumbersome for an e-hailing operator to walk around with physical cash. So, having automated payment processes for this will be very helpful. I have seen that one of the recommendations the Committee has made is speaking directly to the e-hailing service providers who distribute food. I do not know if it has had an opportunity to interact with the dabbawalas of Mumbai in India on what they have been able to do in that particular space because that is one of the oldest and most successful stories when it comes to food deliveries. What the dabbawalas used to do and are still doing, because it is a business that has been there for more than 130 years, is that they collect food from the different homesteads in India and take it to the workers in another area. It has been reported that they have had 99.9 per cent accuracy in terms of collecting foodstuffs from the right homesteads, transporting the same to the right workers, and transporting the containers back. So, this is one of those stories that I would like the Committee to have a look at especially now that they are recommending for us to have a proper way of doing food deliveries because that is a very sensitive area. If you look at some of the recommendations the Committee has made, they make a lot of sense. You can also see that they affect different departments and ministries. But my worry, and I am hoping the Committee is listening to this, is that under each recommendation, they have given a timeline of 90 days for different ministries to process the recommendations and bring their reports back to the House. However, in the recommendation, they do not specify when they would like these different ministries to start. A ministry like the Ministry of Information, Communication and Technology (ICT) which has been tasked with developing a digital courier services network could start its job tomorrow and then another ministry like the Ministry of Roads and Transport which has another task, starts their report writing after one week or a month and all of them have a period of 90 days. If this is not happening at the same time, it means that we will finish this parliamentary calendar without a formidable multi- sectoral engagement on how this legal framework will have been done. This will render the work of the Committee a process in futility. Therefore, I am hoping that the Committee is listening to this and that they will take it into consideration to ensure that if it has different ministries working on coming up with a legal framework that is relevant to its specifications, then it needs to have it happening concurrently so that we can have an actual report in 90 days rather than not giving them particulars of why they want to process this. Having said that, and with that recommendation that I am giving to the Committee, I would like to once again support this report and hope that this is finally something that we will be giving back as a gift to the people who are operating in this space so that we make it more efficient and safer for both the service providers and for the people who are using that service. With those few remarks, I support and submit. I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for this opportunity. I rise to support this report because the Petition was based on a very competent view that when the NTSA was making the National Transport and Safety Authority (Transport The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Network Companies, Owners, Drivers, and Passengers) Regulations, 2022, they excluded motorcycle riders. On that basis, they were not able to engage them during the process. So, that is a big omission. You may have noticed even now, that with the implementation of the traffic laws, the motorcycle riders seem to have been left out. If you look at how they are riding in town, they do not seem to be observing traffic regulations. As much as it may be seen that we are being fair to them, there is a big danger. We are exposing them. So, if you look at accidents that they get involved in, it is because we are not enforcing the laws that protect them. Laws protect people. Sometimes the laws protect you from yourself. I was very concerned that even when they were making these regulations, they left the motorcycle riders out. So that is something we should never do. But over the period, again the Committee realised that the sector has grown and it is not only motorcycle riders, now there are three-wheeled riders, bicycles and even pedestrians who have been involved particularly in courier services. So, we then have left out a very huge aspect. If you look at courier services, I do not think there is any that is doing more volume of work than the motorcycle riders. It has now been realised that it is now the most digitised sector. Because of the digitisation, KRA has collected so much revenue of up to Ksh15 billion between 2022 and 2024. An industry that brings that much revenue should never be left out. Having looked at the Report, I support the recommendations arising from the observations and what we see ourselves. The Report says it is now upon the Cabinet Secretary for Roads and Transport to revise the regulations. It goes without saying that if regulations leave out a major player in the industry, they need to be revised. I support that recommendation wholeheartedly. A very important recommendation that the Committee has come up with is that when revising the regulations, the Ministry needs to do an impact assessment of what they propose. That is something we often ignore when making policy changes. The Ministry should assess the impact that the regulations will have on the industry and on the traffic in town. That is extremely important. We are now in a digitised world. Therefore, we must look at the issue of data protection. If we bring the digitised players into the regulatory framework, we must consider data protection. This will protect the people using the taxis and the operators themselves. When you use the services of these digitised industries, you give so much information that you are not sure where it will reach and what it will be used for. Many of these industries are run by people from outside. It is important the industries have local presence. It is possible for a digitised industry to run without an office in the country. That is something we must avoid. With those remarks, I support the Report."
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