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"speaker_name": "Saku, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Ali Raso",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise on the Standing Order on misinformation. The Hon. Colleague should not misinform the House. He can only say that the operation is not as effective as it should be. Those of us who have been on the ground, even within, can confirm that there are enough boots on the ground, to the extent that we were even in a military command post where we got briefings. So, for that reason, he can only say that it is not as effective as he would have wished. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "(Hon. Joseph Makilap spoke off the record)"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"legal_name": "George Peter Opondo Kaluma",
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"content": " Hon. Makilap, your time is up but because of the passion with which you pursue the matter and being from the area, I will give you two more minutes to wind up."
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"speaker_name": "Baringo North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Joseph Makilap",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, perhaps, you will create more time for me. What I am trying to say is that an operation means you do not only pursue bandits when they steal cows or when they kill people for a day or two hours. An operation is a systematic plan to pursue the criminals when they are not hitting people, when they have not stolen livestock and pursue them to their hide-outs, take away guns from them and recover the animals that they have stolen. That is what an operation is. When a raid happens, they pursue the bandits for an hour. Is that an operation, Hon. Temporary Speaker? It is not. I want to say it here before man and God that there has not been a forceful operation to remove the illegal firearms in the hands of bandits. God will bear me witness in heaven. The Committee knows it and they have reported it correctly. Who hits Baringo North? My people have never organised even one raid against any community. We live with the people of Baringo Central and Marakwet West and there are no raids. In Keiyo North and Keiyo South, there are no raids. What is it therefore? This country needs to know. Who is hitting Elgeyo Marakwet, Tugen, Ilchamus, Turkana, the Agikuyu in Laikipa as well as the Samburu? It is only when that is answered by the President, the Cabinet Secretary and each one of us, that we shall deal with the matter to the end. We know that it is not everyone in that community but there are criminals…"
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo."
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"speaker_name": "Narok West, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gabriel Tongoyo",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As much as I really want to appreciate what the Member for Baringo North is saying on who is behind insecurity and killings, it is not the role of the President or the Cabinet Secretary whatsoever. We just have to appreciate that the criminal elements in those troubled areas are the ones causing insecurity. Definitely, this is not through osmosis or from the blues. It is caused by criminals. We pointed that out clearly in the Report. The President has demonstrated a big deal already through modernisation and allocating a big budget to the security organ in that region. I know the matter is emotive. My good friend is the latest victim of insecurity, as late as two days ago. I know it is painful and emotive but we should sober up and be objective on this matter. The President has already done much. Even as individual leaders, we have a responsibility to play. In the Report, we were bold enough to say that in Baringo and part of Samburu West, the epicentre of all these problems emanate from Tiaty. We did not shy away. We said it clearly and is well captured in the Report. So, let us be objective and not have emotions flare up. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " Hon. Makilap, you have a minute to wind up. Remember you are operating within the gratis time."
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"speaker_name": "Baringo North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Joseph Makilap",
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"content": " I have said that the President has helped my people since he took over office. I am only trying to inform the Commander-in-Chief that there are criminal elements in one place that the Committee has reported on. That is my message. In fact, if there is someone who has held my arm, the arms of the people of Baringo North and the entire North Rift, it is the President of the Republic of Kenya. I am not in doubt on that, and I have supported it. The only thing that I want you to know is that I have enough security personnel in that area, however, the problem is that they do not arrive from the Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC). Bandits are not on the road. They are inside the APC protected area. The security personnel leave out the NPR. They do not work together. The security people should come out of the APC and combine efforts with the NPR, without intimidating them, so that they can move together."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Makilap. Hon. Members, your contribution on this Motion is five minutes each. So, I would request Members who have information, like Hon Makilab, to liaise with the Chair of the Committee, so that we can pursue these matters. Hon. Kassim Tandaza?"
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"speaker_name": "Matuga, ANC",
"speaker_title": "Mhe. Kassim Tandaza",
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"content": " Asante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Miaka ishirini iliyopita, nilifanya kazi sehemu za Pokot na Turkana kama mhandisi. Inahuzunisha kuwa unaweza kutembea zaidi ya kilomita 20 sehemu hizi bila kuona shule moja. Kwa nini nazungumza kuhusu shule? Sote hapa kama viongozi, tunakubaliana kwamba kitu ambacho kinaweza kusawazisha maisha ya wanadamu ni elimu. Nakumbuka wakati tulipopata uhuru, katika takwimu, jambo lililotiliwa mkazo sana lilikuwa la kuondoa ujinga. Ujinga haukuwa uondolewe kwa bakora, fimbo au bunduki bali, kupitia elimu. Kwa hivyo, naunga mkono Ripoti hii iliyowasilishwa na Kamati. Sehemu ambayo haijasisitizwa na inayoweza kutoa suluhu kwa haya matatizo ni elimu. Ni jambo la kutamausha katika karne hii, kama ilivyotajwa katika Ripoti kuwa kuna familia zaidi ya maelfu ambazo zimefurushwa katika makazi yao. Hii inamaaniasha moja kwa moja kwamba, watoto wa familia hizi hawako shuleni. Ikiwa hali ni hiyo, hata Serikali ikiwapeleka askari na wanajeshi kule ilihali hao vijana wanaofaa kupata elimu na hatimaye kazi, mbadala wangalipo, jambo hili halitaisha. Sikubaliani na pendekezo la askari kusuluhisha jambo hili. Kama Bunge, tuangalie sehemu hizi kwa upekee na tuzipe fedha. Ijapokuwa Serikali zilizotangulia hazikuweza kufanya hivyo, sisi tuzipe fedha ili ziweze kupata elimu bora na ziwe na shule za mabweni. Nilipokuwa nikifanya kazi sehemu hizo, nilibaini kuwa, hata panapojengwa shule za kawaida, hazipati wanafunzi kwa sababu wengi wao huenda malishoni kuchunga mifugo na kutafuta nyasi na maji. Kwa hivyo, tuko na uwezo wa kuzipa sehemu hizi pesa. Tuwe na kitu tunachokiita kwa Kimombo, “affirmative action” upande wa elimu. Katika kilimo, haswa Wizara ya Maji, kama nilivyokuwa nikiishi sehemu hizo na Ripoti isemavyo, matatizo mengi hutokea kwa sababu ya malisho pale wanapotafuta nyasi na maji. Mbona kama Bunge, tusitenge fedha maalum kupitia Wizara ya Maji ili mabwawa na visima vipewe kipaumbele tutatue janga hili? Kama tunavyoona katika Bajeti, wale walio katika Kamati zinazohusika wanapeleka miradi ya maji maeneo bunge yao ambayo hayana mahitaji kama sehemu zilizotajwa. Mhe. Spika wa Muda, kwa hizi dakika ulizonipa, inafika wakati ambao jambo hili sio la kamati; lakini, tujue uhalifu katika sehemu moja ya nchi ni uhalifu katika nchi nzima. Kama ilivyozungumzwa hapa, ni aibu kubwa watoto na jamii za wale viongozi wa kisisasa wanaoishi Nairobi na ambao, watoto wao wanasoma shule nzuri lakini katika roho zao, wanaona ni vyema watumie watoto wa maskini ambao hawana elimu The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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