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"speaker_name": "Elgeyo Marakwet County, Independent",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei",
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"content": "Ifahamike kuwa, magaidi ama wezi wa mifugo sio jamii kwa ujumla, bali ni mtu mmoja katika hiyo jamii – it is an individual . Hawasimamii jamii nzima. Usije ukadanganyika kuwa jamii fulani ni ya magaidi. Ni wananchi wachache ambao wanajulikana. Ombi langu ni kuwa, Serikali iweze kufanya proper disarmament . Janga hili la magaidi limeiletea Serikali hasara. Ninaongea kuhusu Kerio Valley upande wa Kaunti ya Elgeyo Marakwet. Jumamosi, nilikuwa katika Kata ya Chesumen, Kerio Valley, Aror. Pia, nilienda Tunyo, Chepkum, Aror kwenyewe na Niwai katika Kata ya Aror. Katika maeneo hayo yote, wananchi wanaomba wizi wa mifugo ufike kikomo. Kule, kuna ardhi nzuri iliyo na rotuba nyingi, na inaweza kulisha Kenya nzima. Tutafanyaje hayo yote tukiwa na terrorists ama bandits ? Itabidi tubadilishe sheria ili yeyote atakayepatikana katika Bonde la Kerio…"
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"legal_name": "George Peter Opondo Kaluma",
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"content": " Nitakuongezea dakika moja ili umalizie maoni yako. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Elgeyo Marakwet County, Independent",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Ninaomba dakika mbili, Mhe. Spika wa Muda."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"id": 1565,
"legal_name": "George Peter Opondo Kaluma",
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"content": " Nitakupea dakika moja. Mimi ndiye msimamizi wa Kikao."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Elgeyo Marakwet County, Independent",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Caroline Ng’elechei",
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"content": " Magaidi hao wamefanya watu wahame kwao. Pia, wamefanya vijana wadogo wasalie nyumbani badala ya kutafuta riziki ama kutafutia jamii zao maisha bora huko Eldoret na miji mingine kama wenzao. Hii ni kwa sababu hawawezi kuwaacha mama na jamii zao bila ulinzi. Nikipigiwa simu na mtu yeyote kutoka Bonde la Kerio, haswa kabla haijatimia saa sita mchana, huwa ninashikwa na hofu moyoni mwangu na kushangaa iwapo ni uvamizi umefanyika ama ni jambo lipi limetokea. Ninashukuru Kamati hii ambayo mimi pia ni mwanachama. Nilitembea katika hizo Kaunti zote. Ninazidi kusisitiza Serikali ikaze kamba kwa sababu tunapoteza rasilimali nyingi. Watu hao wanaeza kujiendeleza, kupanda vyakula na kuilisha Kenya nzima."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"legal_name": "George Peter Opondo Kaluma",
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"content": " Ahsante, Mhe. Caroline Ng’elechei. Kwa sasa, ninampa nafasi Mhe. Major Bashir."
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"speaker_name": "Mandera North, UDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Major (Rtd) Abdullahi Sheikh",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. First and foremost, I want to thank the Committee for bringing a detailed Report on insecurity in the six counties in the North Rift. When you look at these counties along with others in the larger Northern Kenya, they have a common denominator. They are pastoralists in nature. Therefore, security or insecurity issue is unique in these areas. It cannot be dealt with in the same way as in the urban areas. How unique is it? You can attest to the fact that when insecurity arises in these areas, the Government or other actors often call upon leaders and elders to act. However, you do not hear such calls when similar issues arise in Nairobi."
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"speaker_name": "Mandera North, UDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Major (Rtd) Abdullahi Sheikh",
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"content": "For example, there are issues in Homa Bay County. You have not heard anyone asking Hon. Kaluma, with all due respect, and others what is happening there. That alone tells you that these areas and communities are unique. Therefore, there must be a unique solution to the problem. I operated in all these counties, when I was serving in the military. Up to now, we still talk about operational areas, military connected operations and police connected operations. We have never learnt lessons. We are doing the same thing and expecting same results. What is the underlying factor here? It is socio-economic factors over the years. If these things are addressed in these pastoral areas, insecurity will be reduced drastically. However, they are not addressed. The same thing happens in the counties in Northern Kenya. The socio- economic factors contribute to lawlessness. There is no presence of Government. We keep on requesting for administrative units, but people wonder why we need them. This is because this is a unique place which requires unique solutions. In fact, this Committee should have also recommended that when these areas ask for administrative units, please, give them in large numbers. We should reduce them in other places which do not require them, and then we give them."
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"speaker_name": "Mandera North, UDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Major (Rtd) Abdullahi Sheikh",
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"content": "This Report says Baringo County is the worst hit. Why is it so yet we had 24 years of presidency in that place? It is because those parts that are the worst hit are pastoralists in nature. It is not the entire Baringo that is badly hit. Baringo is in two different areas: the pastoralists areas and the normal areas. The normal areas are very safe and secure, but the pastoralists areas are very insecure because of socio-economic factors. There are no roads, schools and water, yet we want to eradicate insecurity in these places. You will be going there. I was there in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003. Hon. Raso was with me in the military. We worked together. We will continue going round like this, unless we have unique solutions to this problem. What is the solution in this place? It is the communities themselves to sit down and say, enough is enough. However, with the Government's support, construct roads for these The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Mandera North, UDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Major (Rtd) Abdullahi Sheikh",
"speaker": null,
"content": "people, build schools and give them water, and they will settle. An incident happens in a certain place, but the police officers cannot reach there because there is no road."
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