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"legal_name": "Margaret Jepkoech Kamar",
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity. May I start, Mr. Speaker---"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": " Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, allow me to say this before you ask your question. Hon. CS, I will allow 10 Senators to ask their supplementary questions. Just note them down, then you respond to them at a go."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
"speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for Co-operatives and MSMEs Development",
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"content": " Okay, thank you."
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"content": " Proceed."
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"legal_name": "Margaret Jepkoech Kamar",
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Allow me to start by congratulating the CS. He is new in the Cabinet and I have seen him here for the first time. I worked very well with him when we were both Ministers and he did a very good job. I do not doubt that he will do the same in this Ministry. I want to thank him for giving us the historical events that took place in KCC. I am a beneficiary because my father was a dairy farmer and that is how I went through my education. He has addressed the issue of the staff as part of the question. Mr. Speaker, Sir, how about the issue of the farmers and the shares of the farmers? He has talked of the assets which were bought in the year 2000 by New KCC. I would want to know what was paid to the farmers because my late father died with the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "hope that his shares in KCC shall be paid to us, his children, one day. However, we have not had anything of that sort. Did the Government consider the shares that were owned by the farmers because the assets belonged to the farmers? They did not belong to nobody. They belonged to farmers. Among them, is a huge population both in Elgeyo-Marakwet, where I was born and Uasin Gishu, where I reside. What consideration was given to the farmers?"
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"legal_name": "Mary Njoki G Mbugua",
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, and thank you, Cabinet Secretary, for your response. The recommendation to form this committee was done six months ago. From your response, you are only talking about two letters being taken. What assurance can you give this House on your commitment to ensure that this matter is resolved within the shortest time possible? Thank you."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. When I was Secretary of the Ministry of Co-operatives, the issue was that farmers used to deposit their milk there daily. Therefore, they built their shares on a daily basis and the assets belonged to them. The ownership of cooperatives is usually on equal basis. One farmer will not have a bigger share than the other. So, what effort has been made to make sure that there is record for the litres of milk and that it forms part of the ownership of the farmers which now informs the current value of the assets? Could that be accounted for so that we also deal with the original members of the cooperative society as you deal with the employees?"
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Okenyuri",
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We have talked about KCC then, but the New KCC is currently frustrating farmers by delaying payment. What happens to milk that has already been supplied and sold? Remember, we also have powdered milk being sneaked in from neighbouring countries and it has flooded our markets thus compressing what we have here. As a result, many of those processors have dead stock. What is the Ministry doing to mitigate that? What is the Ministry also doing to ensure that the farmers who supplied milk to the New KCC are paid because their milk has been sold, but New KCC is not paying them. ."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Spika. Swali langu linahusu muda. Bw. Waziri, waswahili husema, mnyonge mnyongeni na haki yake mpe. Umesema ya kwamba kuna mazungumzo ambayo yanaendelea ili kuhakikisha kwamba wale ambao hawakulipwa pesa zao waweze kuzipata. Ukipiga hesabu, utapata ya kwamba takriban miaka 27 zimeisha. Wengi wao walikufa wakingojea pesa zao. Bw. Waziri, ingekuwa wewe, ungeweza kungoja pesa kwa miaka karibu 30 ilhali uko na matumizi ya hizo pesa? Je, inawezekana utupe muda ambao unaona kama unakadiria? Hili jambo linaweza kumaliziwa ili hawa watu waweze kufaidika na pia waweze kupata nafuu kwa sababu pesa zao zimekaa kwa muda mrefu sana. Nchi hii inashikiliwa sana na wakulima. Vyama nyingi vya ushirika ambavyo vimeanguka huwa zinaenda na pesa za wakulima. Hii hutendeka kwa sababu ya uongozi mbaya katika vyama vya ushirika. Unafanya nini kuhakikisha ya kwamba jambo ambalo lilifanyika katika KCC halitarudiwa tena?"
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