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            "content": "On appoint of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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            "content": " Sen. Boni Khalwale, are you sure you want to raise a point of order? He is not a Senator submitting from the Floor of the House."
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            "content": "(Sen. Khalwale spoke off record)"
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            "content": "What is your clarification?"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, this is very important. In Kirinyaga, farmers were paid as high as Kshs151 per kilogramme while in Mount Elgon and most parts of Western Kenya, the payment ranged between Kshs20 and 30. Could the Cabinet Secretary clarify the differential such that farmers doing the same good job are paid Kshs21 in Western, but in Kirinyaga they are paid Kshs151?"
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            "content": " Sen. Boni---"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I was pursuing Standing Order No.105. That is why I was struggling on accuracy of what is being stated, but you have shown and the Cabinet Secretary has heard me. We are concerned. Cabinet Secretary, we have gone full throttle. We are telling farmers to plant, but Kshs21 against Kshs151?"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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            "content": " Sen. Boni, he was in the middle of answering the same question by Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Perhaps you should allow him to finish."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
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            "content": " Madam Temporary Speaker, I am yet to get those statistics given by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. I can prove my own statistics. There is no differential. I have said clearly that in other regions, there are people who take advantage of farmers. They go straight to the farmers, buy coffee cherries from them, process the same and bring it to NCE and sell at a high price. That is why I advise the two Members of Parliament (MPs) that they should educate to those farmers. Tell the farmers that there is a Cherry Fund. So, there is no need for them to be in a hurry. As soon as you have your cherries, there is a fund where you can make an application from any Co-operative Bank. You just fill the form. After it is proved that the cherries are with you, you will be paid a minimum of Kshs50 per a kilogramme of cherries before they are taken for milling and eventually auction. When it is auctioned, you are paid within five days. Those are part of the reforms that the Ruto Government has undertaken. Within five days, they pay you minus the Kshs50 per kilogramme that you received in advance. I do not see how a farmer can accept to sell coffee cherries at Kshs30 when already there is a Cherry Fund that can give them Kshs50. I do not believe that."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
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            "content": "Should I continue, Madam Temporary Speaker?"
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